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gerade nicht genannt - in this context

English translation: There is no mention.

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German term or phrase:gerade nicht genannt - in this context
English translation:There is no mention.
Entered by: TechLawDC

20:56 Jul 9, 2017
German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
German term or phrase: gerade nicht genannt - in this context
Documentation of legal proceedings.

Background: The Federal Government and Laender have a monopoly with regard to running lotteries. They want to prevent private providers from running online "secondary lotteries", i.e. betting on the outcome of their (the primary) lotteries.

One of their approaches for doing this consists in casting doubt on whether gamblers will get their winnings from the online providers.

The author / Claimant is now defending its position. The queried phrase is at the end.

“Ein Anspruch auf Auszahlung eines Gewinnes durch einen in Deutschland ansässigen Kunden wird nicht durch die Allgemeinen Geschäftsbedingungen in Frage gestellt. Die von der Beklagten angeführte Ziffer 11 betrifft schon gar nicht das Bestehen eines Auszahlungsanspruchs, sondern lediglich die Frage, an wen sich die Website der Klägerin richtet. Unter welchen Voraussetzungen ein Auszahlungsanspruch nicht besteht, ergibt sich indessen aus der abschließenden Aufzählung in Ziffer 13.1. Dort ist der Fall eines Teilnehmers, der durch das anwendbare Recht an der Teilnahme an Glücksspielen im Internet gehindert ist, *gerade nicht genannt*.”

To me it would make sense to remove the “nicht” in the queried phrase (and include a translator’s note).

The previous sentence mentions the prerequisites for a payout claim not to exist, so it is not logical that in this sentence the case of a participant who is prevented from gambling by the law is NOT mentioned.
Elizabeth Niklewska
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:58
There is no mention.
Explanation:
Alternative: is definitely not mentioned.
Alternative 2: is specifically not mentioned.
Overall rendering:
A claim for payment of winnings, asserted by a customer who resides in Germany, is not counter to (is not challenged by) the General Terms and Conditions. Paragraph 11 cited by the Defendant does not relate to the existence of a claim for payment, but only the issue of to whom the Plaintiff's website is directed. The conditions under which a claim for payment does not exist are found in the list at the end of Section 13.1. There is no mention, in that list, of the case of a participant who is prohibited by applicable law from participating in gambling on the Internet.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2017-07-10 02:29:49 GMT)
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(I apologize for the garbled rendering that I posted originally. Un-proofread.)
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Local time: 18:58
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
There is no mention.


Explanation:
Alternative: is definitely not mentioned.
Alternative 2: is specifically not mentioned.
Overall rendering:
A claim for payment of winnings, asserted by a customer who resides in Germany, is not counter to (is not challenged by) the General Terms and Conditions. Paragraph 11 cited by the Defendant does not relate to the existence of a claim for payment, but only the issue of to whom the Plaintiff's website is directed. The conditions under which a claim for payment does not exist are found in the list at the end of Section 13.1. There is no mention, in that list, of the case of a participant who is prohibited by applicable law from participating in gambling on the Internet.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2017-07-10 02:29:49 GMT)
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(I apologize for the garbled rendering that I posted originally. Un-proofread.)

TechLawDC
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Local time: 18:58
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agree  AllegroTrans
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agree  Sangeeta Joshi
1 day 1 hr
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