monti di pietà

English translation: mount of pietry

10:56 Sep 15, 2016
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Italian term or phrase: monti di pietà
Book regarding the economy in 18th century Naples.

I was hoping there was another term besides "pawnshop" because it doesn't seem correct in this context.

Example: Infine, come in tutta la penisola, nel Mezzogiorno operava un consideravole numero di istituzioni di credito di antica tradizione nelle quali le indubbie finalità creditizie si confondevano con quelle assistenziali, monti di pietà e, con un'estensione e un peso però di gran lunga maggiore rispetto agli altri Stati italiani, monti frumentari e pecuniari.
apitassi
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English translation:mount of pietry
Explanation:
A mount of piety is an institutional pawnbroker run as a charity in Europe from the Late Middle Ages times ...

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Idea

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Thanks apitassi

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PIETY, of course :)
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Summary of answers provided
4Monti pietà ("piety" loan funds)
James (Jim) Davis
3Christian-inspired, eleemosynary credit institutions
Adrian MM. (X)
3pawnbrokers
Shabelula
3Monti di pietà or Mounts of Piety (non-speculative credit institutions/unions)
Roberto Impelluso
3 -1mount of pietry
Vojislava Jankovic (X)


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Monti pietà ("piety" loan funds)


Explanation:
I do it this way. Even pawnbroker rather than shop would convey the wrong idea of greedy money making rather than charitable nonprofit lending.

James (Jim) Davis
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Christian-inspired, eleemosynary credit institutions


Explanation:
An object-lesson for the Neapolitan HQ (vs. New York 'branch') of the Camorra.

Translation modelled on Helen P's ref. So Christian-inspired is euphemistc for the anti-Semitic backlash against perceived instances of usury.

NB the mount is in the plural.

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eleemosynary


    Reference: http://https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eleemosynary
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pawnbrokers


Explanation:
just found in the Net, and never experienced in person. However my choice originates from the following:

though it is true that this institution was founded centuries ago for merciful credit against valuables (and to challenge the Jewish pawnbroking stalls), pls note that now it is in fact a business.... there's an interest rate to pay and fees for belated payments of instalments etc. Unpaid or unclaimed jewelry pieces are auctioned after some time. nd I heard that the origin of the goods deposited cannot be checked and sometimes it is not water-clear.... In Rome the Monte di Pietà is rather famous, has its own square with its name just in front of the jewish ghetto and it is managed by a major bank.



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Monti di pietà or Mounts of Piety (non-speculative credit institutions/unions)


Explanation:
I would give the (established) literal translation and then add a gloss in brackets.


    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0014_0_14150.html
Roberto Impelluso
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mount of pietry


Explanation:
A mount of piety is an institutional pawnbroker run as a charity in Europe from the Late Middle Ages times ...

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Note added at 1 hr (2016-09-15 12:35:56 GMT)
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Idea

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Note added at 13 days (2016-09-28 12:37:26 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks apitassi

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Note added at 13 days (2016-09-28 14:02:49 GMT) Post-grading
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PIETY, of course :)


    Reference: http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_of_piety
Vojislava Jankovic (X)
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disagree  James (Jim) Davis: Urban Dictionary: pietry www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pietry Urban Dictionary pietry. a word for gay german wardrivers. look, it's a pietry! // The answerer selected it without the correction! Is it in the glossary as pietry?
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