Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
décote
English translation:
apply a penalty; make a partial refund
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French term
décote
French to English
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Law: Contract(s)
décote
Hello
Try as I may, I can't seem to translate the following although I fully understand its meaning
The company sends some chemicals to a client who tries them out before deciding to return them.
The company is obliged to take them back under the right of retraction laws in France but they have tried them out so:
A défaut, la société sera en droit d’appliquer une ***décote** au titre du droit à l’essai du Client (exemple, utilisation des liquides).
So how could I say décote here (and the whole sentence please)
Thanks
Try as I may, I can't seem to translate the following although I fully understand its meaning
The company sends some chemicals to a client who tries them out before deciding to return them.
The company is obliged to take them back under the right of retraction laws in France but they have tried them out so:
A défaut, la société sera en droit d’appliquer une ***décote** au titre du droit à l’essai du Client (exemple, utilisation des liquides).
So how could I say décote here (and the whole sentence please)
Thanks
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | apply a penalty; make a partial refund |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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| 3 +1 | discount |
Jane Phillips
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| 4 | ( apply a ) discount |
Andrew Bramhall
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| 3 | price mark-down |
Adrian MM. (X)
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Proposed translations
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French term (edited):
appliquer une décote
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apply a penalty; make a partial refund
The term "décote" is being used in French from the supplier's point of view upon accepting returned goods. (One of the common ways of translating this in English is to consider it from the purchaser's point of view, hence the upsidedown-insideoutness of the suggestions thus far.
Two points to bear in mind:
- the original is expressing this from the supplier's viewpoint, cf "appliquer". The supplier is the one in the deciding role here (I think that has to be respected in the English rendering)
- it is essential to convey the idea of this being a penalty for the purchaser (which is why "discount" does not work, as it that implies an advantge for the purchaser.
Returning goods revesers the sale/purchase process but does not reverse the roles of who is doing the selling and who is doing the buying.
Suggestions for "la société sera en droit d’appliquer une ***décote** au titre du droit à l’essai du Client..."
- the Company shall be entitled to apply a penalty where the Client has exercised his right to test the ...
- the Company shall be entitled to make a partial refund where the Client has....
- the Company reserves the right not to refund the full amount of the good supplied where the Client has exercised hie right to try the goods...
Two points to bear in mind:
- the original is expressing this from the supplier's viewpoint, cf "appliquer". The supplier is the one in the deciding role here (I think that has to be respected in the English rendering)
- it is essential to convey the idea of this being a penalty for the purchaser (which is why "discount" does not work, as it that implies an advantge for the purchaser.
Returning goods revesers the sale/purchase process but does not reverse the roles of who is doing the selling and who is doing the buying.
Suggestions for "la société sera en droit d’appliquer une ***décote** au titre du droit à l’essai du Client..."
- the Company shall be entitled to apply a penalty where the Client has exercised his right to test the ...
- the Company shall be entitled to make a partial refund where the Client has....
- the Company reserves the right not to refund the full amount of the good supplied where the Client has exercised hie right to try the goods...
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Comment: "The explanation says it all. Have to avoid 'discount' and similar."
+1
8 mins
discount
Assuming I am understanding this correctly, the client tries the product doesn't like it, can't send it back because its been used so still has to pay for it but at a discounted price?
in view of the Customer's right to test the product the company is entitled to apply a discount
in view of the Customer's right to test the product the company is entitled to apply a discount
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Andrew Bramhall
: Yes, that's it;
3 mins
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| neutral |
writeaway
: "entitled" to apply a discount? is that an entitlement?
15 mins
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11 mins
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( apply a ) discount
Failing that, the company will be entitled to apply a discount on the basis of the goods having being trialled by the client
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Note added at 13 mins (2015-01-15 10:24:33 GMT)
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A défaut, i.e, failing the customer's lack of total satisfaction which means they then return the remainder of the product as a result;
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Note added at 13 mins (2015-01-15 10:24:33 GMT)
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A défaut, i.e, failing the customer's lack of total satisfaction which means they then return the remainder of the product as a result;
1 hr
price mark-down
right of retraction? you mean right of withdrawal and it is not they e.g. the company but, surely, the client who has tried out the product.
Whole wording as per Jane P's or Oliver T's sentences, substituting just the word price markdown for discount - that *is* an entitlement as far as the seller is converned.
Whole wording as per Jane P's or Oliver T's sentences, substituting just the word price markdown for discount - that *is* an entitlement as far as the seller is converned.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
writeaway
: I can understand that a party can be entitled to receive a discount but how can a party be 'entitled' to give one? /I certainly agree with that but not with the use of the word entitlement. can or may apply
30 mins
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The seller is not 'granting' or giving one, but 'applying' namely deducting an amount for use, so effectively adding that amount to the bill.
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Discussion
Discount is in dictionaries but the context is a bit different.
Any other ideas please?