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spring and summer

English translation: her spring and summer nesting site

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English term or phrase:spring and summer
Selected answer:her spring and summer nesting site
Entered by: Yvonne Gallagher

01:08 Oct 13, 2014
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Art/Literary - General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
English term or phrase: spring and summer
So, I'm translating this text. Here it is, already translated into English:

The satellites tell us that the day before yesterday—February, 20th 2001—the beautiful nomad Salam took flight from her winter holdout in the Ethiopian highlands. She’s flying back over the Arabian Peninsula to return to her spring and summer nest of Palmyra in the middle of the Syrian desert.

I'm having an issue with "spring and summer." It just sounds off to me for some reason. What if I wanted to say something else...? Warm weather nest?
Audra deFalco (X)
United States
Local time: 00:41
her spring and summer nesting site
Explanation:
is how I'd leave it. Nothing wrong with it at ll and I certainly wouldn't drop "spring".

Not sure about your "nomad" for a bird. Surely it should be "migratory bird" or "migrant"?

Poor bird heading for Syria these days...

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Note added at 16 hrs (2014-10-13 17:15:16 GMT)
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typo 1st line (at) All

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her spring and summer nesting site AT Palmyra in the middle of the Syrian desert

What hope for Palmyra these days? This report was in April. I assume the situation is even worse now...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/17/world/middleeast/syrian-wa...
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Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 05:41
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +3her spring and summer nesting site
Yvonne Gallagher
3 +1her refuge/shelter for the warm seasons
Danik 2014
3summer
Sheila Wilson


Discussion entries: 2





  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
her refuge/shelter for the warm seasons


Explanation:
Sugestion.


Danik 2014
Brazil
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in PortuguesePortuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jean-Claude Gouin: I like this suggestion as much as I like 'spring and summer' ...
1 hr
  -> Thanks, 1045!
neutral  writeaway: the original English is fine and perfectly clear. The style is lovely and coherent and it flows well. As we say, if it ain't broken, don't fix it. /imo that needs to be explained to Asker.
1 hr
  -> I think the original is ok! I`m just sugesting an alternative.
neutral  Thayenga: With writeaway. :)
6 hrs
  ->  See discussion entry!
neutral  AllegroTrans: original is perfectly clear
2 days 21 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
summer


Explanation:
I agree with others that it really doesn't need rephrasing. But is the mention of spring really necessary? Autumn (fall, if you prefer) doesn't figure, so why spring?

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My research is showing many informed references to winter and summer habitats, with spring normally only quoted in terms of departure, migration, etc. If you look for texts on migratory birds together with "spring nest", you'll find that the majority use nest as a verb. When looking for "spring and summer nest", most of the references are referring to nest-building.

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/studying/migratio...
The migration of geese is an example of the annual, large-scale movement of birds between their breeding (summer) homes and their nonbreeding (winter) grounds.

http://www.backyardnature.net/birdmgrt.htm
Summer residents are migratory birds such as Purple Martins who arrive in our Northern backyards in the spring, nest during the summer, and return south to wintering grounds in the fall.

Sheila Wilson
Spain
Local time: 05:41
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Armorel Young: I assume that this is about satellite tagging of migrating birds (might have helped if the asker had made this clear) and birds nest in spring, so the info isn't entirely useless.
47 mins
  -> Yes, I quite agree that the specific context might require both to be stated. I was just going with what we've got.
neutral  writeaway: don't understand your reasoning at all. As a proofreader/editor, I'd never make such a suggestion.
1 hr
  -> I probably wouldn't either, writeaway, though I prefer never to say never. The Asker is in the best position to judge if it's appropriate in the context.
neutral  Yvonne Gallagher: certainly wouldn't drop "spring"
9 hrs
  -> For the reasons explained in my notes above
neutral  AllegroTrans: why on earth drop "spring"??
2 days 15 hrs
  -> For the reasons explained in my notes above
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16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
her spring and summer nesting site


Explanation:
is how I'd leave it. Nothing wrong with it at ll and I certainly wouldn't drop "spring".

Not sure about your "nomad" for a bird. Surely it should be "migratory bird" or "migrant"?

Poor bird heading for Syria these days...

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Note added at 16 hrs (2014-10-13 17:15:16 GMT)
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typo 1st line (at) All

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Note added at 22 hrs (2014-10-13 23:32:13 GMT)
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her spring and summer nesting site AT Palmyra in the middle of the Syrian desert

What hope for Palmyra these days? This report was in April. I assume the situation is even worse now...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/17/world/middleeast/syrian-wa...

Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 05:41
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 659
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Trudy Peters: agree with everything you say - except it should be at all// Don't like nomad, either
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Trudy:-) and yes, I'd spotted the typo...
agree  Björn Vrooman: Maybe it sounded "off" to her for another reason? My issue is with "nest of Palmyra". That's certainly the wrong preposition./To your "poor bird" (see section Northern Bald Ibis): http://www.iagnbi.org/en/news/
6 hrs
  -> Thanks! Yes, poor birds, animals, people...
agree  AllegroTrans: definietly some issues with the English but that's another story for the asker to look at
2 days 5 hrs
  -> many thanks C.:-)
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