безуездный город

English translation: independent township

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Russian term or phrase:безуездный город
English translation:independent township
Entered by: J.E.Sunseri

08:37 May 15, 2013
Russian to English translations [PRO]
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Russian term or phrase: безуездный город
Hello - this is a term describing the status of a town or city in Russia (I'm not sure whether they still exist). The meaning is quite clear - see the academic.ru definition:

БЕЗУЕ́ЗДНЫЙ [зн], безуездная, безуездное. Только в выражении: безуездный город (дорев.) - город, не являвшийся административным центром уезда, но управлявшийся согласно городовому положению, в отличие от заштатного.

Can anyone help me with an approximate English equivalent? Many thanks in advance,

Ian
Ian Mansbridge
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:50
township
Explanation:
Township means different things in different countries (see links below), but it does seems to convey the administrative ambiguity.
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J.E.Sunseri
United States
Local time: 18:50
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Thank you :) In the end I cautiously went with 'independent township'.
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Summary of answers provided
5a town with no counties
Ekaterina Raykova
4incorporated municipality
katerina turevich
3 +1township
J.E.Sunseri
2 +1charter city?
Pavel Altukhov
3large village
Oleg Kadkin
Summary of reference entries provided
perhaps transliterate and footnote?
Susan Welsh

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charter city?


Explanation:
Sounds like a town administered by its own charter.

Pavel Altukhov
Local time: 04:50
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agree  katerina turevich: just that
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large village


Explanation:
This might do to distinguish between a village and urban-type village.

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Note added at 1 hr (2013-05-15 10:34:36 GMT)
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Another suitable translation is "census town"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_town

Oleg Kadkin
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incorporated municipality


Explanation:
municipal corporation - municipal charter

"incorporated town/city" goes too; the same as for "city charter"

it all depends on the context

katerina turevich
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township


Explanation:
Township means different things in different countries (see links below), but it does seems to convey the administrative ambiguity.


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Township_(United_States)
    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Township
J.E.Sunseri
United States
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Thank you :) In the end I cautiously went with 'independent township'.

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a town with no counties


Explanation:
Ехать - to drive, Уехать - to drive away. According to that in my personal imagination 'уездный город' from the point of view of word/sense formation means something like 'a city you bump into at the end of a road to nowhere'))))
But unfortunately my version is not correct. This term originates from the so to say 'driving around' procedure, needed to locate and set the borders of every district (уезда).
So an 'уездный город' - is a city PLUS all the districts surrounding it, that were 'included' into the city.
This administrative russian term to define cities "уезд" is now definitely outdated and old-fashioned (we come across it only in many classical Russian literature samples)), yet I recon it has a number of direct equivalents.
For example:
Уезд - a sheading (on the Island of Man); a parish (in Luisiana, Wagriensis); and of course, a county; a district; a division.

In my opinion, the you can very well translate it as 'a town with no counties',
My best,
Katja

Ekaterina Raykova
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Reference comments


2 hrs
Reference: perhaps transliterate and footnote?

Reference information:
Безуездный город — По ст. 9 Общ. Учр. Губ. (Св. Зак. т. II, изд. 1892 г.) города в России делятся на губернские, уездные и безуездные. Последние не составляют административного центра для какой-либо определенной территории.

Since this pertains to legal divisions in the Russian Empire, I am not sure that there would be an English equivalent.


    Reference: http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%AD%D0%A1%D0%91%D0%95/%D0%9...
Susan Welsh
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