Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
slotistas
English translation:
slot charterer
Added to glossary by
S Ben Price
Feb 22, 2013 13:43
11 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Spain
+34 669 829 437 [email protected]
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English, Catalan to English
slotistas
Spanish to English
Bus/Financial
Transport / Transportation / Shipping
This one has been posted before in 2007, with no suitable answer. It is a certain type of specialist company in the maritme, logistics or port services sectors. The answerers defined this type of company as:
gestores de derechos de operaciones portuarias
los que usan espacios sobrantes / compartidos
Any idea what you might call this in English?
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_spanish/transport_trans...
gestores de derechos de operaciones portuarias
los que usan espacios sobrantes / compartidos
Any idea what you might call this in English?
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_spanish/transport_trans...
Proposed translations
(English)
| 1 | slot charterer |
Lucy Phillips
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| 3 +1 | fleet operators |
Charles Davis
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| 3 | (container slot brokers) |
Billh
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References
| Refs. - findings only. |
Taña Dalglish
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| slots |
Suzanne Donnelly
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Proposed translations
10 hrs
Lucy Phillips
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
Elegant precision - published writer
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, English, Portuguese to English
Related KudoZ points
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8
Selected
slot charterer
This is a pure guess, backed up with a little googling, I believe it refers to the practice of chartering "slots" on a vessel as opposed to the whole vessel. I don't claim any knowledge in the area, but it might be worth looking into.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I think this is it Lucy, thank you. The client described just this to me, so while I'm not super sure about 'charterer' it does seem to make good sense. Thanks."
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1 hr
fleet operators
I think it's a typo for "flotistas".
Relevant uses of "slotista" all seem to emanate from the www.grupocontenosa.com site. It's a very unconvincing word, but "flotistas" makes good sense, especially since it comes just after "armadores".
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If you'll allow me a brief rant, one thing that really gets my goat is people who post a pure guess with confidence 5 and no explanation. This, I am pretty sure, is what happened in the previous question. The person who posted "gestores de derechos de operaciones portuarias", with the explanation "lenguage de agentes aduanales", in the previous question on this term, could conceivably have had some basis for saying so, but I am very sceptical.
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Sorry, I got that muddled. The answer was "los que usan espacios sobrantes / compartidos", which must surely be a guess based on the meaning of "slot". "Gestores de derechos de operationes portuarias" was the glossary entry, presumably another guess on the part of the asker. Really, this kind of irresponsibility is breathtaking.
Relevant uses of "slotista" all seem to emanate from the www.grupocontenosa.com site. It's a very unconvincing word, but "flotistas" makes good sense, especially since it comes just after "armadores".
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If you'll allow me a brief rant, one thing that really gets my goat is people who post a pure guess with confidence 5 and no explanation. This, I am pretty sure, is what happened in the previous question. The person who posted "gestores de derechos de operaciones portuarias", with the explanation "lenguage de agentes aduanales", in the previous question on this term, could conceivably have had some basis for saying so, but I am very sceptical.
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Sorry, I got that muddled. The answer was "los que usan espacios sobrantes / compartidos", which must surely be a guess based on the meaning of "slot". "Gestores de derechos de operationes portuarias" was the glossary entry, presumably another guess on the part of the asker. Really, this kind of irresponsibility is breathtaking.
Note from asker:
| This makes loads of sense, thanks! :) |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: I think this is the most likely. A lot of the hits I found related to vehicle fleets, but this makes sense in the context.
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Thanks, Phil. I found the same thing too, but it is also used for shipping. On balance, I think this is probably it.
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2 hrs
(container slot brokers)
This would make sense. Hopefully your context will help.
Triton Works, Container Slot Broking
Description: Triton Works owns and runs the XChange, a highly efficient, web based information system for selling and buying ocean freight spot market capacity. Offering an array of freight broker, freight forwarding, logistics, and related services.
http://dawhois.com/site/tritonworks.net.html
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That should be (container) slot broker.
This is certainly used in English. Not many references on the Internet for slotista though. It may well be a sort of made-up word in Spanish.
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it comes after armadores, strengthening CD's interpretation but just before consignatarios, or shipping agents, which strenthens this one. I think they made it up as a reference to people who deal in slots, or slot brokers.
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Global Slot Network Limited: Private Company Information ...
investing.businessweek.com/.../snapshot.asp?... - Traducir esta página
Global Slot Network Limited provides container slot broking service. The company provides a dynamic marketplace where cargo and ship-slot offers can be ...
[PDF]
The E-marketplace model in container shipping: challenges ...
www.temsb.com/assets/.../EdwardVanDorp.pdf - Traducir esta página
Formato de archivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Vista rápida
Electronic freight markets started in US (late 1990s) ... Container Charter and Freight Rates – Plenty of volatility ... Low cost, outsourced slot broking service ...
etc.
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Also, this term appears in company web sites. I very much doubt that if it were a typo it would not have been corrected very quickly.
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en fin, were it I, I would add a note to the client saying this is what I assume it means but as it is not really a Spanish word the client must confirm it.
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I hate to say it but I think this is a good example of where Google is no use whatsoever which will no doubt rule this answer out for a large number of contributors here......
Triton Works, Container Slot Broking
Description: Triton Works owns and runs the XChange, a highly efficient, web based information system for selling and buying ocean freight spot market capacity. Offering an array of freight broker, freight forwarding, logistics, and related services.
http://dawhois.com/site/tritonworks.net.html
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Note added at 2 hrs (2013-02-22 16:40:43 GMT)
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That should be (container) slot broker.
This is certainly used in English. Not many references on the Internet for slotista though. It may well be a sort of made-up word in Spanish.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2013-02-22 16:46:58 GMT)
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it comes after armadores, strengthening CD's interpretation but just before consignatarios, or shipping agents, which strenthens this one. I think they made it up as a reference to people who deal in slots, or slot brokers.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2013-02-22 16:51:22 GMT)
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Global Slot Network Limited: Private Company Information ...
investing.businessweek.com/.../snapshot.asp?... - Traducir esta página
Global Slot Network Limited provides container slot broking service. The company provides a dynamic marketplace where cargo and ship-slot offers can be ...
[PDF]
The E-marketplace model in container shipping: challenges ...
www.temsb.com/assets/.../EdwardVanDorp.pdf - Traducir esta página
Formato de archivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Vista rápida
Electronic freight markets started in US (late 1990s) ... Container Charter and Freight Rates – Plenty of volatility ... Low cost, outsourced slot broking service ...
etc.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2013-02-22 19:29:40 GMT)
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Also, this term appears in company web sites. I very much doubt that if it were a typo it would not have been corrected very quickly.
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Note added at 6 hrs (2013-02-22 19:53:33 GMT)
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en fin, were it I, I would add a note to the client saying this is what I assume it means but as it is not really a Spanish word the client must confirm it.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2013-02-22 21:04:38 GMT)
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I hate to say it but I think this is a good example of where Google is no use whatsoever which will no doubt rule this answer out for a large number of contributors here......
Reference comments
38 mins
Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Jamaica
Native in English
Works in field
Jamaica
Translating the Ideas Behind the Words
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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43
Reference:
Refs. - findings only.
Findings only. However, I leave you with the references found.
That is not to say that I agree with "slottists" as a suitable translation for "slotistas"; Phil has pointed out that it is perhaps a made up word; nor can I find a translation for the Italian word "slottista/slottisti".
La experiencia acumulada por las distintas empresas que forman el GRUPO CONTENOSA, especializadas en diferentes aspectos de la cadena logística del shipping como: armadores, **slotistas**, consignatarios, transitarios, transportistas terrestres con flota propia, agentes de aduanas, consolidadores, almacenistas y distribuidores, ha sido vital para afrontar el importante reto que constituye nuestra nueva realidad empresarial, con total garantía de éxito.
GRUPO XX ofrece servicios para:
http://www.grupocontenosa.com/en/info_corporativa/serveis.ph...
Services
The experience accumulated by the different companies that make up GRUPO CONTENOSA, which specialise in the different aspects of the logistic shipping chain such as ship owners, **slottists**, ship agents, transit agents, land transport with its own fleet, customs, consolidators, storage and distribution, has been essential in facing this important challenge, with a total guarantee of success.
GRUPO XX Offers services for:
Ship's agencies and shipowners for the regular line between Barcelona and the Canary Islands.
Forwarding agencies. Multimodal transport, forwarding, special traffics, consolidations and full loads.
Transit. General load and containers.
[PPT]
Diapositiva 1 - Grupo Contenosa
www.grupocontenosa.com/en/info_corporativa/descarga.php?id=... Format: Microsoft Powerpoint - Quick View
... shipping chain such as ship owners, **slottists**, ship agents, logistic operators, ... As a result of this long-standing maritime tradition and acquired experience, ...
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@ Ben:
I agree 100%. I know it "slottists" is made up.
Further Googling of the phrase "ship owners · ship agents · x · TRANSIT AGENTS ... transit agents, land transport with its own fleet, customs, consolidators, storage and distribution" shows that the missing piece of the puzzle is "NVOCC".
See further references below for what it is worth:
[PPT]
Diapositiva 1 - Grupo Contenosa
www.grupocontenosa.com/en/info_corporativa/descarga.php?id=... Format: Microsoft Powerpoint - Quick View
SHIP OWNERS · SHIP AGENTS · NVOCC · TRANSIT AGENTS ... transit agents, land transport with its own fleet, customs, consolidators, storage and distribution, ...
Requirements for the issuance of maritime bills of lading by non ...
letter of credit forum.com › Content ***Non vessel owning carriers (hereafter: NVOCC)** are businesses that do not ... NVOCCs provide not only simple maritime but also multimodal transportation ... bare boat charter (i.e. the owner of the vessel provides the vessel without the ... Normally a shipping agent, who will redistribute the cargo to the holders of the NVOCC ...
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/non-vessel-oper...
A shipment consolidator or freight forwarder who does not own any vessel, but functions as a carrier by issuing its own bills of lading or air waybills and assuming responsibility for the shipments.
Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/non-vessel-oper...
That is not to say that I agree with "slottists" as a suitable translation for "slotistas"; Phil has pointed out that it is perhaps a made up word; nor can I find a translation for the Italian word "slottista/slottisti".
La experiencia acumulada por las distintas empresas que forman el GRUPO CONTENOSA, especializadas en diferentes aspectos de la cadena logística del shipping como: armadores, **slotistas**, consignatarios, transitarios, transportistas terrestres con flota propia, agentes de aduanas, consolidadores, almacenistas y distribuidores, ha sido vital para afrontar el importante reto que constituye nuestra nueva realidad empresarial, con total garantía de éxito.
GRUPO XX ofrece servicios para:
http://www.grupocontenosa.com/en/info_corporativa/serveis.ph...
Services
The experience accumulated by the different companies that make up GRUPO CONTENOSA, which specialise in the different aspects of the logistic shipping chain such as ship owners, **slottists**, ship agents, transit agents, land transport with its own fleet, customs, consolidators, storage and distribution, has been essential in facing this important challenge, with a total guarantee of success.
GRUPO XX Offers services for:
Ship's agencies and shipowners for the regular line between Barcelona and the Canary Islands.
Forwarding agencies. Multimodal transport, forwarding, special traffics, consolidations and full loads.
Transit. General load and containers.
[PPT]
Diapositiva 1 - Grupo Contenosa
www.grupocontenosa.com/en/info_corporativa/descarga.php?id=... Format: Microsoft Powerpoint - Quick View
... shipping chain such as ship owners, **slottists**, ship agents, logistic operators, ... As a result of this long-standing maritime tradition and acquired experience, ...
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-02-22 14:46:30 GMT)
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@ Ben:
I agree 100%. I know it "slottists" is made up.
Further Googling of the phrase "ship owners · ship agents · x · TRANSIT AGENTS ... transit agents, land transport with its own fleet, customs, consolidators, storage and distribution" shows that the missing piece of the puzzle is "NVOCC".
See further references below for what it is worth:
[PPT]
Diapositiva 1 - Grupo Contenosa
www.grupocontenosa.com/en/info_corporativa/descarga.php?id=... Format: Microsoft Powerpoint - Quick View
SHIP OWNERS · SHIP AGENTS · NVOCC · TRANSIT AGENTS ... transit agents, land transport with its own fleet, customs, consolidators, storage and distribution, ...
Requirements for the issuance of maritime bills of lading by non ...
letter of credit forum.com › Content ***Non vessel owning carriers (hereafter: NVOCC)** are businesses that do not ... NVOCCs provide not only simple maritime but also multimodal transportation ... bare boat charter (i.e. the owner of the vessel provides the vessel without the ... Normally a shipping agent, who will redistribute the cargo to the holders of the NVOCC ...
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/non-vessel-oper...
A shipment consolidator or freight forwarder who does not own any vessel, but functions as a carrier by issuing its own bills of lading or air waybills and assuming responsibility for the shipments.
Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/non-vessel-oper...
Note from asker:
| I found that as well. But it's clearly not "slottists" since that's not a word or type of business in English. Well ... thanks. I think they just made this word up. |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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philgoddard
: Good research on your part, but these are just lazy translations. // It's not a dig at you - it's a dig at the previous translators who couldn't be bothered to research the word.
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I clearly said it is a finding only and I already know it is a poor translation!. I have had it with you and your constant digs! Stop "following me"//My point exactly and even more reason for you to be quiet - lame excuse; credit me for research!
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Billh
: Agree with Phil that somebody translated this web site and could not be bothered to find out what slotistas are. Unless it's a typo it is probably slot brokers.// Take the trouble to look at my references then or google 'container slot broking'.
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Thanks. Equally, Charles' entry too makes a lot of sense "flotistas" and it is worth serious consideration. I am not sure what "slot brokers" means./I assure I did; found "Slot Charter http://www.sabrilogistics.com/terms.htm/not discounting yr contr.
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Discussion
Could we have the context that you're translating? It might be helpful.
I'm wondering if it's something to do with "lotto", meaning batch or consignment. Groupage companies combine batches of goods from different customers to fill shipping containers. I don't know what you call the person who breaks them down into individual consignments at the other end of the journey, but this could be a "slottista". I can't find any evidence of this, though; I wonder if it's a made-up word, or has been translated from another language.