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faute de quoi

English translation: otherwise/or else, failing which

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French term or phrase:faute de quoi
English translation:otherwise/or else, failing which
Entered by: Louisa Tchaicha

22:39 Oct 27, 2012
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Bus/Financial - General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters / chèques sans provision
French term or phrase: faute de quoi
Hello,

I am having difficulty understanding this, it's not really the "faute de quoi" , my understanding of it is "without which" but it seems wrong in this sentence:

"L'huissier notaire doit notifier l'avis au tireur dans un délai ne dépassant pas 4 jours à compter de sa réception, et ce par remise à la personne du tireur ou par son dépot au domicile déclaré à l'établissement bancaire, et si ce dernier se trouve à l'étranger, l'huissier notaire doit notifier l'avis au tireur par lettre recommandée et ce sans formalités faute de quoi, il sera passible des poursuites..."

without formaliies without which?? please help!
Thank you
Louisa Tchaicha
Tunisia
Local time: 08:50
otherwise/or else
Explanation:
"and this without formalities, otherwise, there is liable to be legal action taken.."

Needs a little parsing, with comma in the English rendering, at least IMO
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Timothy Rake
United States
Local time: 00:50
Grading comment
Many thanks! if I could I would also have chosen savvas' "failing which"
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Summary of answers provided
4 +8otherwise/or else
Timothy Rake
4 +7otherise
cc in nyc
4 +5failing which
Savvas SEIMANIDIS
5unless/if not
Tohid Sharifi


  

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30 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +7
otherise


Explanation:
Perhaps the comma belongs before "faute de quoi"?

faute de quoi adv. otherwise
http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/faute de quoi

faute de quoi otherwise
http://www.larousse.com/en/dictionaries/french-english/faute...

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Oops: entry should be otherwise, of course!

cc in nyc
Local time: 03:50
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 153
Notes to answerer
Asker: Ahh I see! Thank you :)


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agree  Yvonne Gallagher
1 hr
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agree  Jean-Claude Gouin
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agree  Daniel Weston
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agree  Cyril B.
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agree  Savvas SEIMANIDIS
4 hrs
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agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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agree  AllegroTrans
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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +8
otherwise/or else


Explanation:
"and this without formalities, otherwise, there is liable to be legal action taken.."

Needs a little parsing, with comma in the English rendering, at least IMO

Timothy Rake
United States
Local time: 00:50
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Many thanks! if I could I would also have chosen savvas' "failing which"
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you :)


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Yvonne Gallagher
1 hr
  -> Thank you!
agree  Jean-Claude Gouin
1 hr
  -> Thank you!
agree  Daniel Weston
3 hrs
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agree  Cyril B.
4 hrs
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agree  Savvas SEIMANIDIS
4 hrs
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agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: For UK legalese, 'otherwise', rather than "or else". Also "there is liable to be legal action taken...", in legal contexts, " liable" is a technical term and it's use as an ordinary word seems out of place here.
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agree  sofi21
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agree  corina hancianu
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
failing which


Explanation:
Another English synonym :

- References:

1.a Abstract of the Articles of association ("By-Law", "Statuts" in French) of a French joint stock company :

" Chaque actionnaire peut voter par correspondance au moyen d’un formulaire établi et adressé à la
Société dans les conditions fixées par la loi et les règlements. Ce formulaire doit être reçu par la Société trois (3) jours ouvrés avant la date de la réunion de l’assemblée, faute de quoi il n’en sera pas tenu compte."

1.b English version:

"All shareholders may vote by mail by means of a form filled in and sent to the Company in
the conditions set by law and by regulations. This form must be received by the Company three (3) working days before the date of the meeting, failing which it will not be taken into account."

Source : http://fr.atos.net/NR/rdonlyres/0AD4F7DF-AE73-4AEF-ABF4-07E1...

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2.a Abstract of the "Terms of sale" of a French company:

" ... à la condition d'avoir obtenu préalablement l'autorisation de débit de votre compte auprès des centres de paiement compétents, faute de quoi la commande ne pourrait être prise en compte. "

2.b English version :

" provided that we have obtained prior permission to debit your account with appropriate payment center, failing which the order could not be taken into account."

Source : http://en.edelices.com/terms




Savvas SEIMANIDIS
France
Local time: 09:50
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GreekGreek, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Neil Crockford
4 hrs
  -> Thank you Neil
agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: "failing which" is my preference.
5 hrs
  -> Thank you Nikki
agree  Daryo: fits best
8 hrs
  -> Thank you Daryo! Have a nice Sunday!
agree  AllegroTrans
12 hrs
  -> Thank you !
agree  bol.b.: I think Savvas's solution maintains both formal and dynamic equivalence, from whichever point of view one may examine the issue .It can be used both within a legal text(which is the case here) and an informative text on a website!
2 days 9 hrs
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unless/if not


Explanation:
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Tohid Sharifi
Cote D'ivoire
Local time: 07:50
Native speaker of: Native in Persian (Farsi)Persian (Farsi)
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you

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