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Even as it is

English translation: Even so, nonetheless, nevertheless

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English term or phrase:Even as it is
Selected answer:Even so, nonetheless, nevertheless
Entered by: Jenni Lukac (X)

20:01 Sep 1, 2011
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Esoteric practices
English term or phrase: Even as it is
Hello everyone,

I am in the confidence of some of the masters of
this wondrous power, and have witnessed many startling
exhibitions of thought transference, but as the promise of
secrecy was exacted from me by these friends, my lips are of
course sealed. Outside of these considerations, it would be of
very doubtful wisdom to spread, broadcast, information of this
nature, which would place within the means of unscrupulous
persons the power to work their wills upon their fellow men.
***Even as it is***, fragments of this occult knowledge have leaked
out and have been misused

Does "even as it is" mean however (implying "although I didn't do that, i.e. I did not reveal those secrets")?
Or does it mean something like "even in the situation as it is now (implying "even in the current state of affairs")"

Thank you.
Mikhail Korolev
Local time: 03:51
Even so, nonetheless, nevertheless
Explanation:
I hope these synonyms help!
Selected response from:

Jenni Lukac (X)
Local time: 02:51
Grading comment
Many thanks to everyone.
Thank you, Jenni.

4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +5Even so, nonetheless, nevertheless
Jenni Lukac (X)
4 +3even in the situation as it is now
Martin Riordan
4even though I did not as I promised not to
Stephanie Ezrol


  

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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
even as it is
Even so, nonetheless, nevertheless


Explanation:
I hope these synonyms help!

Jenni Lukac (X)
Local time: 02:51
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 52
Grading comment
Many thanks to everyone.
Thank you, Jenni.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sheila Wilson: "even in the situation as it is now", as suggested by the Asker
1 min
  -> Thanks, Sheila. This text could use a red pencil (or an eraser). "Notwithstanding" would be another way of putting it.
agree  Allison Wright (X): Notwithstanding (+ "the above", or "the element of secrecy"). I agree with your red pencil idea, Jenni. "Nevertheless" would probably be the best one-word solution in this rather sloppily written text.
13 mins
  -> Cheers and thanks, Allison. I've got a similar one on my desk right now!
agree  Jack Doughty
1 hr
  -> Cheers and thanks, Jack.
agree  amarpaul: Alison's "Nevertheless" sounds good. Do all these sloppy writers get paid by the word, do you think?
12 hrs
  -> Thanks, amarpaul. I often wonder!
agree  Phong Le
1 day 4 hrs
  -> Thanks very much Phong. Have a good weekend.
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
even as it is
even in the situation as it is now


Explanation:
Your second suggestion is how I understand the phrase in this context.

The phrase could be replaced in the original, with little change of meaning, by the word "already".

Martin Riordan
Brazil
Local time: 21:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Charles Davis: I agree, and I think what it implies is "even though strenuous efforts have been made to keep it secret". In other words, I have not revealed it, but others, who were presumably sworn to secrecy too, have done so.
43 mins
  -> Yes, I agree that the phrase implies all this. Thanks!
agree  DLyons
4 hrs
  -> Thanks, DL!
agree  Luciane Shanahan
5 hrs
  -> Obrigado, Luciane!!
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
even as it is
even though I did not as I promised not to


Explanation:
It does mean pretty much as you said, "however (implying "although I didn't do that, i.e. I did not reveal those secrets")?

Or it could also be restated, even though I kept the promise of secrecy some fragements of this occult knowledge have leaked out.



Stephanie Ezrol
United States
Local time: 20:51
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 36
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