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la persona di

English translation: represented by (or omit)

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Italian term or phrase:la persona di
English translation:represented by (or omit)
Entered by: Anna ZANNELLA

22:05 May 22, 2011
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)
Italian term or phrase: la persona di
"... la persona di _____________________, quale Titolare/Direttore Commerciale /Responsabile Ufficio Tecnico rappresentante XXXX s.r.l., con sede ... "

I am assuming that this is an unrepresented person 'appearing' themselves in this contract, not by way of legal counsel. I say this because of the choice of job titles which follow. Thanks.
Anna ZANNELLA
Italy
Local time: 03:19
in the persona of
Explanation:
or just omit and give the name. Need to know what precedes "la persona"hence the low confidence.

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Note added at 9 hrs (2011-05-23 07:37:20 GMT)
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OOOppps ERROR "in the PERSON of" not persona, which was a typing error.

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q="in th...


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Note added at 4 days (2011-05-27 15:55:24 GMT)
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With a bit more Googling the phrase "in the person of" used in this specific sense of representing a legal entity certainly has a very reputable pedigree


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation

Lord Chancellor Haldane,

...a corporation is an abstraction. It has no mind of its own any more than it has a body of its own; its active and directing will must consequently be sought in the person of somebody who is really the directing mind and will of the corporation, the very ego and centre of the personality of the corporation.


http://www.betterprint.co.uk/help/terms-conditions.html
In the event of a claim arising out of any act or neglect of the Company howsoever arising liability of the Company shall be limited to the invoiced value of the work undertaken unless otherwise agreed in writing with the Company **in the person of **one of its Directors
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James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 05:19
Grading comment
AGREE THANKS With a bit more Googling the phrase "in the person of" used in this specific sense of representing a legal entity certainly has a very reputable pedigree

4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +6represented by (or omit)
Thomas Roberts
4 +1the subject...
Pasquale Capo
3in the persona of
James (Jim) Davis


Discussion entries: 3





  

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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
represented by (or omit)


Explanation:
This is a stock phrase used in contracts and litigation used to indicate that the legal person concerned is acting through a particular person.

See the similar answer: http://ita.proz.com/kudoz/italian_to_english/law:_contracts/...

However, since later on in the phrase it states that the person is representing the company, it would be pointless to repeat that fact, so this phrase would be best left out.

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Note added at 9 hrs (2011-05-23 07:57:24 GMT)
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Given the context of the whole sentence, I would omit.

Thomas Roberts
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 1370

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Adele Fenstermacher
12 mins
agree  darwilliam: yes
2 hrs
agree  Dominic Currie
3 hrs
agree  corallia
7 hrs
agree  Ivana UK: I would definitely omit in this sentence
8 hrs
agree  Pasquale Capo: right on!
8 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
the subject...


Explanation:
or if for example in the context of a contract, "the party"....
buon lavoro,
PC

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Note added at 13 hrs (2011-05-23 11:24:05 GMT)
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in this case I just would omit it and simply insert the individual's name and last name which in itself would indicate that he is a person.

Pasquale Capo
Canada
Local time: 21:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 56

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  tradu-grace: I would use both depending on the whole context.
57 mins
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
in the persona of


Explanation:
or just omit and give the name. Need to know what precedes "la persona"hence the low confidence.

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Note added at 9 hrs (2011-05-23 07:37:20 GMT)
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OOOppps ERROR "in the PERSON of" not persona, which was a typing error.

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q="in th...


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Note added at 4 days (2011-05-27 15:55:24 GMT)
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With a bit more Googling the phrase "in the person of" used in this specific sense of representing a legal entity certainly has a very reputable pedigree


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation

Lord Chancellor Haldane,

...a corporation is an abstraction. It has no mind of its own any more than it has a body of its own; its active and directing will must consequently be sought in the person of somebody who is really the directing mind and will of the corporation, the very ego and centre of the personality of the corporation.


http://www.betterprint.co.uk/help/terms-conditions.html
In the event of a claim arising out of any act or neglect of the Company howsoever arising liability of the Company shall be limited to the invoiced value of the work undertaken unless otherwise agreed in writing with the Company **in the person of **one of its Directors

James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 05:19
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 1337
Grading comment
AGREE THANKS With a bit more Googling the phrase "in the person of" used in this specific sense of representing a legal entity certainly has a very reputable pedigree
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