cul de lapin

English translation: Saddle of rabbit with the thighs

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French term or phrase:cul de lapin
English translation:Saddle of rabbit with the thighs
Entered by: Gail Bond

08:50 Sep 30, 2010
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Cooking / Culinary / Recipe
French term or phrase: cul de lapin
I'm stuck on this term in a list of recipes. 'Cul de lapin' is the title of the recipe, and in the list of ingredients, it says '1 cul de lapin, c'est-à-dire le râble et les 2 cuisses'. I've considered 'rump' but this seems too big for a rabbit's little bottom! I know that 'râble' is 'saddle' but I can't put this on its own as the next recipe is for 'râble de lapin'.
Gail Bond
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:57
Saddle of rabbit with the thighs
Explanation:
I do not think there is a one word description for this, and for recipes it is always best to spell things out.
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Mark Nathan
France
Local time: 09:57
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Thanks, Mark, and everyone else for their contributions.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +3Saddle of rabbit with the thighs
Mark Nathan
3 +2rabbit rump
Catharine Cellier-Smart
4haunch
Bourth (X)
3rabbit saddle and thighs
mimi 254
3leg and saddle of rabbit
Sheila Wilson
3hindquarters of rabbit
Rachel Fell
3Half rabbit
Sandra Mouton
1hindquarters
Callum Walker


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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
hindquarters


Explanation:
This is just a suggestion. I'm not saying it's right at all, but looking at a few rabbit butchery articles, this term has cropped up a couple of times. Perhaps this will fit the bill given that it refers to a larger section of the rear end of the rabbit, rather than just the saddle?

Callum Walker
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:57
Native speaker of: English
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
Saddle of rabbit with the thighs


Explanation:
I do not think there is a one word description for this, and for recipes it is always best to spell things out.

Mark Nathan
France
Local time: 09:57
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 188
Grading comment
Thanks, Mark, and everyone else for their contributions.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  EJP: Yes or 'legs' I've found a recipe for 'stuffed legs and saddle of rabbit' and we say frog's legs for cuisses de grenouille don't we?
10 mins
  -> Thanks

agree  liz askew: Slightly more delicate, n'est-ce pas?
28 mins
  -> yes, jokes about fresh rabbit's bottoms should definitely stay in the kitchen.

agree  emiledgar
9 hrs
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
rabbit rump


Explanation:
despite what you say I would go with 'rump'.

Some examples :
"Ingredients: one rabbit rump (saddle and thighs)"
http://www.zeptercookwaremi.com/emain.htm

this also contains a reference to rump :
http://www.scribd.com/doc/36606790/Rabbit-Farming

this isn't a serious recipe but ...
"Quotation for the Day … I don't go for the nouvelle approach-serving a rabbit rump with coffee extract sauce and a slice of kiwi fruit. Jeff Smith (the Frugal Gourmet)."
http://www.theoldfoodie.com/2006/07/furry-things.html

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Note added at 18 mins (2010-09-30 09:08:30 GMT)
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This document is for rabbit breeders, not chefs, but it identifies all the parts of a rabbit :
http://www.ksre.ksu.edu/library/4h_y2/S101.pdf (pages 3 & 4)

Catharine Cellier-Smart
Reunion
Local time: 11:57
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 28

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Maia Tabet: Yeah, if you want something as short and as pithy as cul de lapin, I would agree with Catherine, Rabbit Rump is far less of a mouthul (!) than rabbit saddle and thighs
5 hrs
  -> thank you Maia ! (might be a mouthful to eat though !)

agree  Rosa Paredes: With you and Maia...
11 hrs
  -> thank you Rosa
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26 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
rabbit saddle and thighs


Explanation:
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mimi 254
Local time: 08:57
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
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35 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
leg and saddle of rabbit


Explanation:
Another possible. I think rabbits are a bit small for talk about thighs - there just isn't any meat worth speaking of below the "knee"

A great place to eat and relax - Whitley Hall Hotel, Sheffield ...
... yellow in colour to the norm, but worked really well with the carpaccio beef); followed by leg and saddle of rabbit stuffed with black pudding (again!). ...
www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186364-d502703-r6051...

The Love Chef Web Site - Restaurant Reviews
4 Apr 2006 ... Braised Leg and Saddle of Rabbit – served with English pea mushroom risotto, lemon thyme and green olive sauce @ $26.00. ...
www.thelovechef.com/restaurants/ca/ovation_at_the_opera.htm...

Stuffed Leg And Saddle Of Rabbit Recipe | Food | Channel4.com
21 Dec 2009 ... It's British night at the F Word restaurant and a mouth watering main course of rabbit with stout and mustard sauce is being served.
www.channel4.com/.../the-pheasant-leg-and-saddle-of-rabbit-...

(Dont't let the "pheasant" confuse you - it's the name of the restaurant!)

Sheila Wilson
Spain
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35 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
hindquarters of rabbit


Explanation:
hindquarters, i.e. the saddle and two legs

1kg lean game meat – pheasant breasts, pigeon breasts, duck or other wild fowl breasts, boned saddle and hindquarters of rabbit or hare, lean venison cut into strips
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/oct/03/terrines-...

Rabbit leg hindquarters
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/cookandchef/txt/s1684454.htm

Braised Rabbit de Napolitaine
Hindquarters of rabbit braised in a light étouffée (carameled roux, tomatoes, garlic and filet de gumbo) sauce served atop creamy hominy grits and herbs de Provençal.

http://www.manhattancateringllc.com/menu_french.htm

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Note added at 37 mins (2010-09-30 09:27:53 GMT)
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woops, didn't mean to duplicate, but changed mind while looking - was going to put haunch first then forgot Callum W had put h'quarters...

Rachel Fell
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28 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
haunch


Explanation:
Not necessarily 100% accurate and not necessarily applicable to rabbits, however ...

Haunch ... b. The leg and loin of a deer, sheep, etc. prepared for table

Loin ... 1. Chiefly pl. The part or parts of a human being or quadruped, situated on both sides of the vertebral column, between the false ribs and the hip-bone. b. [Interestingly, there is no a.] As food: chiefly, the joint of meat which includes the vertebrae of the loins
[SOED]

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Note added at 36 mins (2010-09-30 09:27:02 GMT)
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cul: haunch or rear, usually of red meat
http://www.slowtrav.com/france/restaurants/glossary.htm

haunch - A term used in a cut of meat, usually venison. One of the back legs of an animal with four legs that is used for meat (the leg and loin undivided, or, as more commonly called, the hind quarter) - a haunch of veal, venison, or wild boar.
http://whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/H.htm

Maybe "double haunch of rabbit"? (people will think they're getting a double serving for the same money).

And we'll keep the loins of mon petit lapin out of this, thanks very much.


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Note added at 37 mins (2010-09-30 09:27:53 GMT)
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Since it is defined in the text, it matters little, really, what it is called, as long as it sounds good.

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Note added at 43 mins (2010-09-30 09:33:48 GMT)
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While there are a few "rabbit haunch"es and "haunch of rabbit"ses gaily skipping about there on the Ouèbbhe (505 and 1500 respectively), combined with "recipe", for instance, there are only 151 and 36 respectively.

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Note added at 44 mins (2010-09-30 09:34:54 GMT)
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Wonder what Gollum calls 'em.

A brace of rabbit haunches?

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Note added at 50 mins (2010-09-30 09:40:25 GMT)
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Which reminds me: Samwise Gamgie once refers to the cooking of a "brace of conies".

How about "haunch of coney". Con is, after all, not far removed from cul, if you think bilingually ("You stupid c***!").

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Note added at 52 mins (2010-09-30 09:42:18 GMT)
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The Latin reinforces this!

co•ney 1 also co•ny
n. pl. coneys also conies
1. A rabbit, especially the European rabbit (Oryctolagus cuniculus).
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conies


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Note added at 52 mins (2010-09-30 09:42:45 GMT)
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I'll never be able to look a rabbit in the eye again!

Bourth (X)
Local time: 09:57
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 88

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Sarah Downing: Rabbits were actually called conies in the Shakespearean era.
2 hrs

neutral  liz askew: you have excelled yourself here Bourth on the research front!
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2 days 5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Half rabbit


Explanation:
I am not completely sure it sounds alright to native speaker's ears, but, for what it's worth I have found the reference below


    Reference: http://buffalobistro.net/index2.html
Sandra Mouton
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:57
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Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
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