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Feierkirche

English translation: oratory chapel

14:34 Feb 15, 2010
German to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Architecture / Kirchenbau
German term or phrase: Feierkirche
Does anyone know the English translation for this architectural term? It comes up in a translation I am doing about the Versöhnungskirche in Leipzig. "Die Feierkirche unter der Orgelempore ist mit Fenstern nach Entwürfen von Odo Tattenpach geschmückt"
In another context, I have found the distinction between "Feierkirche" and "Predigtkirche", but have no idea what to call them in English.
CGK
Local time: 00:04
English translation:oratory chapel
Explanation:
In Roman Catholic Canon Law a chapel, technically called an "oratory" is a building or part thereof dedicated to the celebration of services, particularly the Mass, which is not a parish church. This may be a private chapel, for the use of one person or a select group (a bishop's private chapel, or the chapel of a convent, for instance); a semi-public oratory, which is partially available to the general public (a seminary chapel that welcomes visitors to services, for instance); or a public oratory (for instance, a hospital or university chapel).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapel

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To be honest this is rather more of a guess, but I thought I'd better post it as I presume such a chapel can be set in opposition to a funerary chapel.

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It might well be a better offering for Predigtkirche, but perhaps this will prompt someone else to reach the right conclusion.

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http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11271a.htm

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Thanks, Claire - good solution; I was wondering whether to say just plain old 'side chapel' but chapel is fine.
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Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:04
Grading comment
This was closest so I'll give it the points. In the end I just wrote "chapel" and ignored the "Feier" part - it's perfectly understandable without.
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +2ceremonial church
Edith Kelly
3 +2oratory chapel
Helen Shiner
Summary of reference entries provided
Info
Kim Metzger

Discussion entries: 5





  

Answers


5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
ceremonial church


Explanation:
church used for ceremonial purposes

and if you google "ceremonial church" you will find entries.

Churches used more for ceremonial purposes (in German, Feierkirchen), ..... Some details on the sound system in St. Michael's Church, Hamburg The ...
www.aes.org › Publications › E-Library

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Cathedral Builders: The Story of a Great Masonic Guild 1899 - Leader Scott - 2003
They were generally used as baptisteries or mausoleums ; in fact were ceremonial churches. Aix-la Chapelle was designed as the tomb of Charlemagne, ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0766179907...

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Predigtkirche - sermon church, also googles well if you compare both the German and English descriptions

Edith Kelly
Switzerland
Local time: 00:04
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 60

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ingeborg Gowans (X)
10 mins
agree  Sabine Akabayov, PhD
31 mins
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
oratory chapel


Explanation:
In Roman Catholic Canon Law a chapel, technically called an "oratory" is a building or part thereof dedicated to the celebration of services, particularly the Mass, which is not a parish church. This may be a private chapel, for the use of one person or a select group (a bishop's private chapel, or the chapel of a convent, for instance); a semi-public oratory, which is partially available to the general public (a seminary chapel that welcomes visitors to services, for instance); or a public oratory (for instance, a hospital or university chapel).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapel

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To be honest this is rather more of a guess, but I thought I'd better post it as I presume such a chapel can be set in opposition to a funerary chapel.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-02-15 17:39:05 GMT)
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It might well be a better offering for Predigtkirche, but perhaps this will prompt someone else to reach the right conclusion.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-02-15 17:43:04 GMT)
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http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11271a.htm

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Note added at 2 days1 hr (2010-02-17 16:00:27 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks, Claire - good solution; I was wondering whether to say just plain old 'side chapel' but chapel is fine.

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:04
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 254
Grading comment
This was closest so I'll give it the points. In the end I just wrote "chapel" and ignored the "Feier" part - it's perfectly understandable without.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kim Metzger: This comes pretty close, but I'm not an expert.
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, Kim - just not quite sure whether it is spot on.
agree  CArcher
4 hrs
  -> Thanks, CArcher
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Reference comments


44 mins peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Info

Reference information:
Die Doppelkapelle oder auch Doppelkirche (im weiteren Sinne) ist ein Bauwerk mit zwei übereinander angeordneten gemeinsam genutzten Kulträumen bzw. Kapellen unterschiedlicher liturgischer Funktion. Meist befindet sich über einer Begräbniskapelle im Untergeschoss eine Feierkirche im Obergeschoss.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelkapelle

Dedicated to the Holy Cross, the chapel of Landsberg is a sober edifice with three apses covered by a hip roof. The double chapel owes its present form to Margrave Konrad of Landsberg, who had a separate chapel, reserved for the lords, added between 1195 and 1200. The common people were relegated to the lower part while their masters sat in the upper part. Note the sculpted capitals and columns of red marble stolen in Italy (upper chapel).

http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/web/Tourist_site/Landsberg-0618...


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A Doppelkirche has two separate chapels - in some cases (always?) there's a chapel for funerals and a chapel for regular religious services.

Kim Metzger
Mexico
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 374
Note to reference poster
Asker: Hi Kim, yes I have the feeling that Feierkirche refers to part of the church, too, and is not just a descriptive term for the kind of church it is. I'm asking my client for more clarification


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Helen Shiner: funerary chapel and oratory chapel? I'm a little unsure.
2 hrs
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