Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
TSR-Kloni
English translation:
triceps reflex cloni
Added to glossary by
Blaess
Oct 23, 2009 16:25
14 yrs ago
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German term
TSR-Kloni
German to English
Medical
Medical (general)
neurology
Listed under the heading "Extrapyramidale Stoerungen" -
TSR-Kloni beidseits.
TSR-Kloni beidseits.
Proposed translations
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4 +3 | triceps reflex cloni | Blaess |
3 +4 | clonic triceps reflex (or elbow reflex) | RegineMac |
References
see 3.5 Neurologie http://docs.googl... | liz askew |
Change log
Oct 23, 2009 16:30: Steffen Walter changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
Oct 23, 2009 16:30: Steffen Walter changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
Oct 29, 2009 15:18: Blaess Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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triceps reflex cloni
Clonus (from the Greek for "violent, confused motion") is a series of involuntary muscular contractions due to sudden stretching of the muscle. Clonus is a sign of certain neurological conditions, and is particularly associated with upper motor neuron lesions such as in stroke, multiple sclerosis, spinal cord damage and hepatic encephalopathy. Unlike the small, spontaneous twitching known as fasciculations (usually caused by lower motor neuron pathology), clonus causes large motions that are usually initiated by a reflex.
Clonus is most common in the ankles, where it is tested by rapidly flexing the foot upward (dorsiflexion). It can also be tested in the knees by rapidly pushing the patella towards the toes. Only sustained clonus (5 beats or more) is considered abnormal.
Clonus appearing after ingesting potent serotonergic drugs strongly predicts imminent serotonin toxicity (serotonin syndrome).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonus
info DE
http://books.google.de/books?id=iudj5uu21Z0C&pg=PA627&lpg=PA...
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clonus (sg), cloni (pl)
By the way - it would be nice you could close previous questions of your´s (e.g. http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/medical_general/... either just-close or award the points - otherwise one might get the feeling that you do not care for the answers and discussions - which hopefully is not the case;)
Best wishes
Clonus is most common in the ankles, where it is tested by rapidly flexing the foot upward (dorsiflexion). It can also be tested in the knees by rapidly pushing the patella towards the toes. Only sustained clonus (5 beats or more) is considered abnormal.
Clonus appearing after ingesting potent serotonergic drugs strongly predicts imminent serotonin toxicity (serotonin syndrome).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonus
info DE
http://books.google.de/books?id=iudj5uu21Z0C&pg=PA627&lpg=PA...
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clonus (sg), cloni (pl)
By the way - it would be nice you could close previous questions of your´s (e.g. http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/medical_general/... either just-close or award the points - otherwise one might get the feeling that you do not care for the answers and discussions - which hopefully is not the case;)
Best wishes
Peer comment(s):
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Rolf Keiser
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Danke!
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SJLD
: you never actually see the plural used in medical English/explain to me then , if clonus = series of involuntary muscular contractions, what are cloni?
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you do - see above
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robin25
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Danke!
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liz askew
: never come across this in my 10 + years of medical translating into English.//They are not native English medical references.
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well, take a look at the references provided - and learn something new every day;)
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Ingrid Moore
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Thank you!
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Comment: "Thank you!"
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clonic triceps reflex (or elbow reflex)
TSR - Trizepssehnenreflex
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Thanks very much! |
Peer comment(s):
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SJLD
: or you could write "triceps reflex: clonus"
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Right. Thanks, SJLD.
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liz askew
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Thanks, Liz.
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Susanne Schiewe
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Thanks, Susanne!
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Ingrid Moore
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Thanks, Ingrid!
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Reference comments
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Reference:
see
3.5 Neurologie
http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cache:W03FM9EfKDUJ:www.bi...
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TSR = Trizeps-R
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Office practice of neurology - Google Books Result
by Martin A. Samuels, Steven K. Feske - 2003 - Medical - 1517 pages
In extreme hyperreflexia, the reflex is repetitive or clonic. ... Thus, biceps, triceps, and brachioradialis reflexes are recorded in the upper limb, ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0443065578...
3.5 Neurologie
http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cache:W03FM9EfKDUJ:www.bi...
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TSR = Trizeps-R
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Note added at 22 hrs (2009-10-24 14:38:45 GMT)
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Office practice of neurology - Google Books Result
by Martin A. Samuels, Steven K. Feske - 2003 - Medical - 1517 pages
In extreme hyperreflexia, the reflex is repetitive or clonic. ... Thus, biceps, triceps, and brachioradialis reflexes are recorded in the upper limb, ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0443065578...
Discussion
I assure you as a native English speaking physician that "cloni" is NOT idiomatic. Please don't waste your time. I will not be convinced otherwise.
W.K. Gowees in: The diagnosis of diseases of the spinal cord. 3rd ed. J&A Churchill, London (1834)
"There can also be a series of rhythmic contractions (cloni) in both limbs. ...
Post-reflex clonus
... This is simply the repeated occurence of a normal reflex response even when only one stimulus has been administered."
J.J. van Nes in: Medical History and Physical Examination in Companion Animals. Eds. A. Rijnberk, H.W. de Vries, Kluwer Academic Publishers, 1995
Summary: Evidence makes it clear that "cloni" is and has been a common term in the scientific
"Within 12 hours of life, tremors and bilateral ankle cloni were noted."
M.E. Daerdorff et al. Mol Genet Metab. 2008 August; 94(4): 498–502.
"... extensor plantar reflex and ankle cloni ..."
E.D. McGahren, W.G. Wilson in: Pediatrics - Recall. 3rd ed. 2008 Lippincot Williams & Wilkins
"Ankle cloni were present but not sustained."
D.A. Arneson et al.: Strychnine therapy in nonketotic hyperglycinemia. Pediatrics 63, 369-373 (1979)
"... draws attention to the development of ankle-clonus and other cloni in subjects who are affected with muscular hypertonicity."
D.W. Buxton. A note on ankle-clonus, with special reference as to its production under nitrous oxide gas. Br Med J 1887;2:669-674
"... and the knee-jerks continued excessive and ankle-cloni well-marked."
JS Bristowe. Br Med J 1888;1:1369-1372
PubMed abstracts are probably the least reliable reference for translation purposes you will find (after the Kudoz glossary?). There is no linguistic or professional verification. If you know anything about the publishing world, you will be aware that competent copy-editors and proof-readers are an almost extinct species.
secondly, why don´t you just check pubmed yourself - for the moment I am quite in a rush.
finally, all these journals and publishers have NATIVE-English speaking lectors;)
Maybe I post a few examples here:
"... there are cloni ..."
http://books.google.de/books?id=Y9Dpcqr7PZMC&pg=PA129&lpg=PA...
http://www.springerlink.com/content/r708018w62u47175/
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119955165/abstrac...
spasticity with painful cramps and cloni.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18632094?ordinalpos=2&ito...
many more upon request