en tapis

English translation: with a border

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
French term or phrase:en tapis
English translation:with a border
Entered by: Ysabel812

15:07 Sep 18, 2009
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Architecture
French term or phrase: en tapis
This is a method for laying terracotta floor tiles:

(Tile description) Plat à bord droit. Convient parfaitement dans les grandes pièces pour agrandir l’espace. Généralement disposés en diagonale ou en tapis, il va donner une modernité à l’ensemble de la pièce.

Thanks!!
Ysabel812
with a border
Explanation:
One way of saying this that seems to fit in with all the many instructions for laying tile floors to be found on the internet.
Selected response from:

Evans (X)
Local time: 17:43
Grading comment
Thanks for your help here!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +3with a border
Evans (X)
4 +1tile rug inset
Travelin Ann
3 +1Ruglike
Gad Kohenov
4straight pattern
axies
3in diamond pattern
MatthewLaSon
3with a rug border (and inset)
Bourth (X)
2trompe l'oeil rug
Richardson Lisa
Summary of reference entries provided
Don't know what it's called in English
Alain Pommet
Another ref...
Emma Paulay
Victorian-style tiles laid in a geometric pattern
Helen Shiner

Discussion entries: 3





  

Answers


49 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Ruglike


Explanation:
Peut etre?

Gad Kohenov
Israel
Local time: 19:43
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in HebrewHebrew
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Enrique Huber (X)
1 hr
  -> Thanks a lot~! :))
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

57 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
with a border


Explanation:
One way of saying this that seems to fit in with all the many instructions for laying tile floors to be found on the internet.

Evans (X)
Local time: 17:43
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 75
Grading comment
Thanks for your help here!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Christopher Crockett: Yes, assuming that the diagonal (diamond) pattern is not necessary, as in Alain's referenced site: "en diagonal sur le milieu et droit sur les côtés" = "diagononally in the middle and straight around the edges."
34 mins
  -> thanks Christopher

agree  Emma Paulay: I think this is probably the simplest way to say it.
40 mins
  -> thanks Emma

agree  Helen Shiner: Perhaps geometric inset with a border. My ref might help.//Or mosaic pattern with a border.
52 mins
  -> thanks Helen
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

58 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
trompe l'oeil rug


Explanation:
just a suggestion

Richardson Lisa
France
Local time: 18:43
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
tile rug inset


Explanation:
See image at my web reference

I've also seen it on home dec shows


    Reference: http://books.google.com/books?id=5bStCFaNcNwC&pg=PA118&lpg=P...
Travelin Ann
Local time: 12:43
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Bourth (X): More below (as it happens).
6 hrs
  -> Thanks
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
in diamond pattern


Explanation:
Hello,

Is this not "diamond-patterned"?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://olivier.funix....

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2009-09-18 16:15:45 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

http://olivier.funix.org/maison/images/carrelage/tapis.jpg

MatthewLaSon
Local time: 12:43
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
with a rug border (and inset)


Explanation:
Medium only because I'm not sure how to distinguish (if one does) between the pattern where the border is against the walls, with a different layout in the central area, and the case where the border is already in the centre of the room and encloses another layout again (this is shown in my last ref. below).

Quite possibly en tapis covers them both.

Question about DIAGONAL LAYOUT WITH A BORDER
http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2576

I've been through many books and web sites but couldn't find details on how best to do a LAYOUT WITH A BORDER.

For discussion purposes I'll be laying 18" tile on DIAGONAL WITH A FULL-TILE BORDER (same tile). This will be in a 20'x20' sunroom that has a closet bump-out in one corner and a walk-through to the kitchen (already tiled).

A couple layout preference questions:
1) Should I lay a full-tile border first and then do the diagonals? Doing the border first essentially gives me a "new" wall line to lay the diagonals up to. All the cutting-to-fit would then be on the diagonal tiles.
2) Or...Should I do the diagonals first and even perhaps (?) make them end with nice neat ½ tiles where they meet the border? The borders would each then be trimmed to fit against the wall. What concerns me with this option is that the borders along the ends of the room will be of different width than the borders along the sides of the rooms.
http://forum.doityourself.com/archive/index.php/t-119168.htm...

AREA RUG BORDER OR PICTURE FRAME – in the center of an area, border tiles are used to outline the area to look like the border of an area rug or picture frame with a different tile in the center
[ ... ]
AREA RUG BORDER WITH INSET – in the center of an area, border tiles are used to outline the area to look like the border of an area rug. The border tiles are laid straight while the center of the area is a pattern such as turned on the diagonal, diagonal with dots, or diagonal running bond.
http://www.askafloorguy.com/tile-layout-pattern-ideas-to-giv...

Laying Out Flooring Tiles with a Border
It is necessary to measure from the walls to establish the grid, but adjust the final position of the grid so that there is space for a BORDER all the way around the room.
Either adjust the grid so that there are whole tiles laying against the border on two of the walls, or center the grid right in the middle of the room and cut all the tiles against the border all the way around the room, provided the cut tiles do not end up being too narrow.
TILE THE CENTER AREA FIRST AND FINISH BY TILING THE BORDER. Tiles that are laid diagonally should be finished with a border that runs parallel to the walls.
http://www.raftertales.com/home-improvement/home-flooring/ho...

Photo features Travata in a Diamond with RUG BORDER
http://www.daltileproducts.com/images/documents/tile_pattern...
[also illustrates many types of border]


Bourth (X)
Local time: 18:43
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 539
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

1 day 19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
straight pattern


Explanation:
In the straight pattern which is the basic std pattern. The less costlier because cutting to size/fit is minimized. On the other hand diagonal pattern(s) is the opposite. It involves a lot of cutting to size as it has to be finished with a border all around the exposed floor.

Below is some reference:
<a href>answers.yahoo.com/question/index?</a href>
Resolved Question
Show me another »
Is it different prices for lying tile straight vs. diagonal(diamond shape)on kitchen floor?
I was quoted 800 and when I said I would like them diagonol he said that would be more money because its designer.

axies
Australia
Local time: 02:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)




Reference comments


29 mins peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Don't know what it's called in English

Reference information:
en tapis (en diagonal sur le milieu et droit sur les côtés)
http://olivier.funix.org/maison/carrelage.htm

but you can see that they are laid diagonally in the middle and straight around the edge.

Alain Pommet
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Christopher Crockett: Yes, "en diagonal sur le milieu et droit sur les côtés" = "diagononally in the middle and straight around the edges." I've never seen a specific English term for this.
1 hr
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

1 hr peer agreement (net): +2
Reference: Another ref...

Reference information:
Judging from your context, I would say they mean laid straight as in the second example here.


    Reference: http://www.travaux.com/dossier/carrelage/153/La-disposition-...
Emma Paulay
France
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Evans (X): I too wondered if this is what was meant, diagonally or laid straight
2 mins
  -> Thanks. However, I think the "border" part is probably what they're getting at.
agree  Christopher Crockett: You are quite right, and it is presence of the border which is dispositive here --the pattern within that border can vary, in this case *not* diagonally.
19 mins
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

1 hr
Reference: Victorian-style tiles laid in a geometric pattern

Reference information:
Lots of images and sites to check out terminology: http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLJ_en-GBGB3...

Sorry I haven't got time to look.

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 110
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)



Login or register (free and only takes a few minutes) to participate in this question.

You will also have access to many other tools and opportunities designed for those who have language-related jobs (or are passionate about them). Participation is free and the site has a strict confidentiality policy.

KudoZ™ translation help

The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators and others to assist each other with translations or explanations of terms and short phrases.


See also:
Term search
  • All of ProZ.com
  • Term search
  • Jobs
  • Forums
  • Multiple search