Jun 16, 2009 19:25
14 yrs ago
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French term
mode d'exploitation (exploitation directe)
French to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
extrait Kbis
Technically I suppose this amounts to two terms, but they are so closely linked that I felt they needed to be considered as a whole. Will repost if necessary :-)
This is virtually identical to the following question already asked on Proz, to which no satisfactory answer was found.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/bus_financial/45...
Taken from a company registration certificate, mine simply reads:
Siège social: (address)
**Mode d'exploitation: Exploitation directe**
Origine du fonds: Transfert de siège
Enseigne: (name of company)
etc.
Quite clearly this has nothing to do with funds management, but does anyone know the correct and accepted way to render this phrase in this official context?
MTIA
This is virtually identical to the following question already asked on Proz, to which no satisfactory answer was found.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/bus_financial/45...
Taken from a company registration certificate, mine simply reads:
Siège social: (address)
**Mode d'exploitation: Exploitation directe**
Origine du fonds: Transfert de siège
Enseigne: (name of company)
etc.
Quite clearly this has nothing to do with funds management, but does anyone know the correct and accepted way to render this phrase in this official context?
MTIA
Proposed translations
(English)
Proposed translations
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form of operation: operating subsidiary
This is from a dictionary compiled on translatorpub.com
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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2009-06-17 21:00:06 GMT)
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I should amend that to: type of operation: operating subsidiary
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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2009-06-17 21:00:06 GMT)
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I should amend that to: type of operation: operating subsidiary
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Seems odd to comment now, but was looking for a suitable solution. This appears on the Kbis but there is strictly no reference to any notion of subsidiary. Emma's reference post is helpful.
2173 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Found a couple more refs to support this one. I used "direct operating subsidiary". Thanks everyone :-). "
+4
8 mins
operational mode (direct)
it might indicate that it the company is not managed through a holding or that it is not a franchise
(I am guessing a bit though because there is not must context to grasp)
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Note added at 10 mins (2009-06-16 19:35:46 GMT)
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or type of management / type of control
it all depends what "direct" relates to
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Note added at 12 mins (2009-06-16 19:38:01 GMT)
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The GDT might inspire you, here is the page for exploitation (in French) : http://www.granddictionnaire.com/BTML/FRA/r_Motclef/index102...
(I am guessing a bit though because there is not must context to grasp)
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Note added at 10 mins (2009-06-16 19:35:46 GMT)
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or type of management / type of control
it all depends what "direct" relates to
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Note added at 12 mins (2009-06-16 19:38:01 GMT)
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The GDT might inspire you, here is the page for exploitation (in French) : http://www.granddictionnaire.com/BTML/FRA/r_Motclef/index102...
Peer comment(s):
agree |
joehlindsay
: I think this is on the right track, see discussion.
25 mins
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agree |
Marlene Blanshay
: or mode of operation
14 hrs
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agree |
Radu DANAILA
: or even "operating mode", (many ghits on Google)
1 day 11 hrs
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agree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: I agree that this is a valid default option as it has the advantage of describing what the French means, although literal, and of being as clear as the French (or not) ;-).
2173 days
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28 mins
type of management (direct management)
I didn't see Michèle had also suggested this until posting. I think this gets to the heart of the issue, which I agree is control of the entity.
30 mins
type of operation: direct sales
suggestion.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Marlene Blanshay
14 hrs
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Thank you Marlene (nice to meet another Québécoise!)
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disagree |
Tony M
: This has nothing to do with the type of sales practised.
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OK, thanks.
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Reference comments
33 mins
Reference:
non exploitant
Here is a k-bis with a different mode, I'm thinking this has something to do with the objet social (this SCI is perhaps a holding for the other SCI mentioned on the 2nd page?)
Just some food for thought, my approach to this was to find out what other "modes" could be indicated on a k-bis, to better understand what it's all about.
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Note added at 49 mins (2009-06-16 20:14:31 GMT)
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Mode d'exploitation : location-gérance
http://www.cj2e.asso.fr/pdf/manifestations/cpt_52.pdf (page 15)
En ce qui concerne le mode d’exploitation, il faut notamment être vigilant pour vérifier si on a
bien affaire à une exploitation directe ou une location gérance car les pouvoirs du locataire
gérant peuvent être limités par le contrat de location gérance.
Just some food for thought, my approach to this was to find out what other "modes" could be indicated on a k-bis, to better understand what it's all about.
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Note added at 49 mins (2009-06-16 20:14:31 GMT)
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Mode d'exploitation : location-gérance
http://www.cj2e.asso.fr/pdf/manifestations/cpt_52.pdf (page 15)
En ce qui concerne le mode d’exploitation, il faut notamment être vigilant pour vérifier si on a
bien affaire à une exploitation directe ou une location gérance car les pouvoirs du locataire
gérant peuvent être limités par le contrat de location gérance.
Note from asker:
Thanks for the tip, Lori; I'm trying to use these to get an overall picture :-) |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Exactly. A business can be "exploité" in (at least) one of two modes : directe, location gérance...
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22 hrs
Reference:
modes d'exploitation d'un fonds de commerce
"Exploitation Directe" seems to be as opposed to "en location gérance".
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Now (30/5/15) to be found here http://www.institut-idef.org/-CHAPITRE-II-MODES-d-EXPLOITATI...
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Discussion
exploitation directe operating subsidiary
I'll post this as an answer.
"L'équilibre de son parc hôtelier est un atout essentiel dans les phases de croissance comme dans les périodes difficiles : éventail de marques adaptées à chaque segment de marché, présence internationale correspondant à la demande mondiale, prédominance des ** modes d'exploitation directe**.
"Its balanced hotel portfolio is a major asset through growth phases and hard times alike with a range of brands targeting each market segment, international coverage to match worldwide demand, and a preference for ** direct management**."
This means of course, that the company manages the hotel themselves and not through a hotel management company as is common, or perhaps through a franchisee.
It looks like Eutychus hit the nail on the head.
I think the term 'wholly owned subsidiary' might possibly have some application here, but I'm not sure enough to post it as an answer.