Apr 8, 2009 10:56
15 yrs ago
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French term
les suites
French to English
Medical
Medical (general)
les suites d'un infarctus
Proposed translations
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| 5 +10 | the sequelae |
SJLD
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| 5 +3 | consequences |
Dr Lofthouse
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| 4 | the aftermath of a heart attack) |
ormiston
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| 3 | las consecuencias |
Laura Gómez
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| Suites et séquelles sont deux choses différentes |
Lionel_M (X)
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Non-PRO (1): Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
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Proposed translations
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the sequelae
how I usually translate it
Clinical sequelae of MIClinical sequelae of infarction ... Myocardial infarct —> reduced number of contracting myocardial fibres + ... During first day of myocardial infarct ...
www.perfusion.com.au/CCP/Pathophysiology/Clinical sequelae ... - 25k - Cached - Similar pages
IGMCardiac gene expression in cardiomyopathy, myocardial infarction and ... are stable for 6 months and have a significant positive effect on infarct sequelae. ...
www.usc.edu/schools/medicine/research/institutes/igm/face.p... - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
Multislice CT - Google Books Resultby Maximilian F. Reiser, Springer London, Limited ... - 2009 - Medical - 623 pages
Infarct sequelae and complications can also be depicted by contrast-enhanced CT, such as a circumscribed and partially calcified apical aneurysm in a ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=3540331247...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2009-04-08 14:42:59 GMT)
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If "les suites" simply means a time period and does not refer to any special "event" (development of a complication for example), then you should just use "after an infarct" or "following an infarct".
Clinical sequelae of MIClinical sequelae of infarction ... Myocardial infarct —> reduced number of contracting myocardial fibres + ... During first day of myocardial infarct ...
www.perfusion.com.au/CCP/Pathophysiology/Clinical sequelae ... - 25k - Cached - Similar pages
IGMCardiac gene expression in cardiomyopathy, myocardial infarction and ... are stable for 6 months and have a significant positive effect on infarct sequelae. ...
www.usc.edu/schools/medicine/research/institutes/igm/face.p... - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
Multislice CT - Google Books Resultby Maximilian F. Reiser, Springer London, Limited ... - 2009 - Medical - 623 pages
Infarct sequelae and complications can also be depicted by contrast-enhanced CT, such as a circumscribed and partially calcified apical aneurysm in a ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=3540331247...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2009-04-08 14:42:59 GMT)
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If "les suites" simply means a time period and does not refer to any special "event" (development of a complication for example), then you should just use "after an infarct" or "following an infarct".
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ykabeya
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thanks :-)
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Jean-Louis S.
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thanks :-)
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Alba Arendsen
: Agree. In French the word "séquelles" is used as well.
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indeed, they are synonymous AFAIK - thanks :-)
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NKW (X)
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thanks :-)
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Angela Dickson (X)
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thanks :-)
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liz askew
: Same here.
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thanks :-)
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Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
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thanks :-)
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Lionel_M (X)
: Sue, if I follow your "logic", then sequelae would have been "séquelle" in the FR doc; not "suites" IMHO, "suite" is used since it might encompass physical problems. But only the asker knows about//I fully agree w/ u about the lack of context -)
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In that case "consequences" is wrong too - it would be best translated simply by "after/following a MI"/who knows? I'm not wasting any more time on a question with no context - as the saying goes: GIGO garbage in garbage out. Now I'm off to Paris!
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thanks :-)
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Michael Barnett
: It looks OK to me. Sequellae is pretty generic.
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thanks Michael :-)
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Richard Asher
: i've just seen a sentence: 'les suites de cette intervention ont ete simples'. Anyone got thoughts on how to translate this? "There were no complications" seems likely to me but not 100% sure.
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the post-operative course was uneventful/uncomplicated
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consequences
its referring to the after-effects of an infarct -these would depend where the infarct was of course - could also use 'results of an infarct', or
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Lionel_M (X)
: Considérant le manque d'info sur la nature de ces suites, le terme "conséquence" évite de se tromper en utilisant "séquelles" dans le cas où il ne s'agisse pas exclusivement de signes cliniques
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lkwon
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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the aftermath of a heart attack)
moving away from the 'séquelles' debate, this is the kind of term I more often come across:
Web Résultats 1 - 10 sur un total d'environ 390 000 pour aftermath of a heart attack (0,32 secondes)
Résultats de rechercheHeart Attack - Definition, Description, Causes, Symptoms ... - [ Traduire cette page ]The aftermath of a heart attack is often severe. Two-thirds of all heart attack patients never recover fully. About one-quarter of all men and nearly ...
www.faqs.org/health/Sick-V2/Heart-Attack.html - 20k - En cache - Pages similaires
Heart attack, Information about Heart attack - [ Traduire cette page ]The aftermath of a heart attack is often severe. Two-thirds of heart attack patients never recover fully. Within one year, 27% of men and 44% of women die. ...
www.faqs.org/health/topics/77/Heart-attack.html - 10k - En cache - Pages similaires
Heart Attack Aftermath: Returning to Work - Health - Families.com - [ Traduire cette page ]7 Feb 2008 ... Returning to work after a major injury or health crisis can be exciting. You may be tired of resting and feeling a touch of cabin fever!
health.families.com/blog/heart-attack-aftermath-returning-to-work - 32k - En cache - Pages similaires
WESTCHESTER OPINION; IN THE AFTERMATH OF A HEART ATTACK - Free ... - [ Traduire cette page ]WESTCHESTER OPINION; IN THE AFTERMATH OF A HEART ATTACK. E-MAIL. Permissions. By PAUL LEVINE; PAUL LEVINE LIVES IN NEW ROCHELLE. (The New York Times); ...
Web Résultats 1 - 10 sur un total d'environ 390 000 pour aftermath of a heart attack (0,32 secondes)
Résultats de rechercheHeart Attack - Definition, Description, Causes, Symptoms ... - [ Traduire cette page ]The aftermath of a heart attack is often severe. Two-thirds of all heart attack patients never recover fully. About one-quarter of all men and nearly ...
www.faqs.org/health/Sick-V2/Heart-Attack.html - 20k - En cache - Pages similaires
Heart attack, Information about Heart attack - [ Traduire cette page ]The aftermath of a heart attack is often severe. Two-thirds of heart attack patients never recover fully. Within one year, 27% of men and 44% of women die. ...
www.faqs.org/health/topics/77/Heart-attack.html - 10k - En cache - Pages similaires
Heart Attack Aftermath: Returning to Work - Health - Families.com - [ Traduire cette page ]7 Feb 2008 ... Returning to work after a major injury or health crisis can be exciting. You may be tired of resting and feeling a touch of cabin fever!
health.families.com/blog/heart-attack-aftermath-returning-to-work - 32k - En cache - Pages similaires
WESTCHESTER OPINION; IN THE AFTERMATH OF A HEART ATTACK - Free ... - [ Traduire cette page ]WESTCHESTER OPINION; IN THE AFTERMATH OF A HEART ATTACK. E-MAIL. Permissions. By PAUL LEVINE; PAUL LEVINE LIVES IN NEW ROCHELLE. (The New York Times); ...
Reference comments
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Reference:
Suites et séquelles sont deux choses différentes
Les séquelles sont les conséquences clinqiues/physiques; les suites est un terme générique qui va bien au dela.
Exemple:
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=19254436
Titre FR: Anomalies de la tolérance glucidique dans les suites d'un infarctus du myocarde
Titre EN: Abnormalities of glucose tolerance during the suites of myocardial infarctus
Il semble clair que "suites" n'indique pas "séquelles"
Autre exemple:
http://www.biologiereseauxsante.com/2008/index.php?option=co...
"Le clopidogrel et l’aspirine à faible dose représentent les traitements courants donnés dans les suites d’un infarctus du myocarde ou d’une procédure de reperméabilisation des coronaires avec pose d’un stent, en prévention des récidives. Des études ont montré qu’une variabilité du gène codant le cytochrome P450 2C19 contribue à l’effet antiplaquettaire du médicament."
Question: pensez vous que suites et séquelles soient deux synonymes et que l'on puisse écrire:
"Le clopidogrel et l’aspirine à faible dose représentent les traitements courants donnés dans les SEQUELLES d’un infarctus du myocarde ou d’une procédure de reperméabilisation des coronaires avec pose d’un stent..."
Le texte n'aurait aucun sens
Autre exemple:
www.pifo.uvsq.fr/hebergement/cec_mv/197.pdf
Texte: "la première semaine dans les suites d’un infarctus du myocarde étendu. iii) Syndrome post-cardiotomie. ..."
Peut-on dire : "la première semaine dans les séquelles d’un infarctus du myocarde étendu. iii) Syndrome post-cardiotomie. " ?????
Il serait donc souhaitable de savoir à quoi "suites" correspond pour pouvoir le traduire avec un minimum de certitude
Exemple:
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=19254436
Titre FR: Anomalies de la tolérance glucidique dans les suites d'un infarctus du myocarde
Titre EN: Abnormalities of glucose tolerance during the suites of myocardial infarctus
Il semble clair que "suites" n'indique pas "séquelles"
Autre exemple:
http://www.biologiereseauxsante.com/2008/index.php?option=co...
"Le clopidogrel et l’aspirine à faible dose représentent les traitements courants donnés dans les suites d’un infarctus du myocarde ou d’une procédure de reperméabilisation des coronaires avec pose d’un stent, en prévention des récidives. Des études ont montré qu’une variabilité du gène codant le cytochrome P450 2C19 contribue à l’effet antiplaquettaire du médicament."
Question: pensez vous que suites et séquelles soient deux synonymes et que l'on puisse écrire:
"Le clopidogrel et l’aspirine à faible dose représentent les traitements courants donnés dans les SEQUELLES d’un infarctus du myocarde ou d’une procédure de reperméabilisation des coronaires avec pose d’un stent..."
Le texte n'aurait aucun sens
Autre exemple:
www.pifo.uvsq.fr/hebergement/cec_mv/197.pdf
Texte: "la première semaine dans les suites d’un infarctus du myocarde étendu. iii) Syndrome post-cardiotomie. ..."
Peut-on dire : "la première semaine dans les séquelles d’un infarctus du myocarde étendu. iii) Syndrome post-cardiotomie. " ?????
Il serait donc souhaitable de savoir à quoi "suites" correspond pour pouvoir le traduire avec un minimum de certitude
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Drmanu49
: Completely agree Lionel. It is not possible to answer without more context and sequel/consequences are too restrictive. It could be treatment too.
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Merci Doc
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