gruppi di amici

English translation: groups

20:08 Mar 24, 2009

Italian to English translations [PRO]
Tourism & Travel

Italian term or phrase: gruppi di amici

Hold on it's not quite that simple- look maybe I'm just being thick, maybe it's late but I just don't get what this means...

From a web site describing a Hotel in the skiing resort of Abetone:

Particolari trattamenti sono riservati a *gruppi di amici* e atleti in gara sulle piste dell'Abetone.

I ask myself "amici di chi?" Is it simply "groups of friends" or is there some group called "friends of Abetone"? or just groups? Maybe that's it.
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julie-h KudoZ activity Questions: 261 (3 open) (1 without valid answers) (26 closed without grading) Answers: 87
Local time: 03:08

English translation:groups

Explanation:
Particolari trattamenti sono riservati a *gruppi di amici* e atleti in gara sulle piste dell'Abetone
We are obviously delaing with discount or the like.

Particular/special discount will be given to groups and athletes competing on the slopes/piste in Abetone. Groups of firends seems too many people for my liking

Selected response from:

Being Earnest
Italy
Local time: 03:08

Grading comment

Thanks to everyone- I'm going with this one because it confirms what I thought. I think maybe "group" is more British and "party" more American? Anyway I didn't like the inclusion of "friends"- I mean why do they have to be friends? Surely in some organised groups the people don't even know each other.
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Summary of answers provided

4 +7

parties of friends

Angela Arnone

5 +1

groups of friends

Barbara Cochran, MFA

5 +1

their friends

Simon Charass

4 +1

will be granted to groups

Ellen Kraus

3 +2

groups

Being Earnest

4 +1

for groups or athletes

potra

Summary of reference entries provided

groups

Manuela Dal Castello

Answers

30 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

groups of friends

Explanation:
The literal translation is quite a propos here, in my estimation.

Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 21:08
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

33 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

will be granted to groups

Explanation:
I am certain that it s the usual benefit granted to guests who arrive in groups, they enjoy specific price reductions and other amenities. This type of advertisement is designed to attract customers or to make frieds decide to make a holiday as a group.

Ellen Kraus
Austria
Local time: 03:08
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

German
PRO pts in category: 20

7 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +7

parties of friends

Explanation:
Julie, I don't see any agenda! Just "parties of friends" who go up there together.

Angela

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Note added at 42 mins (2009-03-24 20:50:58 GMT)
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Julie, yes friends in a group, but I've always used party/parties. As in "How many are there in your party?" when referring to an outing of any description.

Angela Arnone
Local time: 03:08
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 125

Notes to answerer

Asker: I think it's just "groups" then, "special rates for groups" It was the word "friends" that threw me. It's been a long day- sorry and thanks!

11 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

their friends

Explanation:
I think that the “amici” are the friends of the athletes competing.

Special conditions are offered to athletes competing in Albertone and to their friends.

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Note added at 28 mins (2009-03-24 20:37:06 GMT)
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I think it refers to the athletes supporters.

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Note added at 50 mins (2009-03-24 20:59:46 GMT)
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Such programs are usually called “Family and Friends Discount Program”.

Simon Charass
Canada
Local time: 21:08
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

French
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

Angela Arnone: Simon, there is an "e" between "amici" and "atleti", so it's not "of". I'm unable to understand the logic here and I don't understand Francesca's comment at all. The Italian says literally "groups of friends **and** athletes". It's not ambiguous.

31 mins

-> Please see my last note. Thanks.

neutral

Francesca Tondi: I think Simon might be right, they need not say "amici" if they were referring to groups (do they not provide enterteinment for social groups on holiday or businesspeople?), but still I think it's best to leave the ambiguity there.

45 mins

-> Thank you. I know I’m right. As for the ambiguity, I have no opinion.

agree

Hilary Bruce: Although Angela is quite correct, I think it may just be written incorrectly in Italian. The website of the hotel concerned has a separate page for groups. I would check with the hotel, but my vote is for Simon's 'family & friends' version.

1 hr

-> Thank you Hilary.

neutral

Manuela Dal Castello: ... I think ambiguity comes because of Albertone... if you read it like a name or nickname it is a completely different thing from Abetone, which is a mountain and skiing resort

1 hr

-> No doubt it is a skiing resort.

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

groups

Being Earnest
Italy
Local time: 03:08
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12

Grading comment

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

for groups or athletes

Explanation:
special rates for groups and for athletes competing on the Abetone slopes...
No need to specify 'group of friends' in my opinion

potra
United States
Local time: 21:08
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Italian,

English
PRO pts in category: 11

Reference comments

2 hrs

Reference: groups

Reference information:
Just my 2 cents... I think they wrote "gruppi di amici" to mean that that groups having a right to discounts do not need to be "official groups", such as a school, a professional team etc., but it's ok when you call and say "we are 4 couples of adults, two have a child, and would like to come and stay". I repeat, just my 2 cents

Manuela Dal Castello
Italy
Works in field
Native speaker of: Italian
PRO pts in category: 4

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