Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Schnürstrümpfe
English translation:
laced stockings
Added to glossary by
Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
Mar 2, 2009 17:00
15 yrs ago
German term
Germany
Harald Moelzer (medical-translator) 
medical-translator ...the right words!
Native in: German 
Works in: English to German, German to English, French to German, and 1 more.
Schnürstrümpfe
German to English
Medical
Medical (general)
Phlebology
'Schnürstrümpfe' are mentioned in a text about the history of phlebology:
"Bei Fabricius ab Aquapendente, einem der maßgeblichen Lehrer William Harveys, werden Schnürstrümpfe aus Hundeleder erwähnt"
or
"Der große englische Arzt Richard Wiseman beschreibt Verbände und Schnürstrümpfe gegen Geschwüre und Krampfaderleiden"
"Bei Fabricius ab Aquapendente, einem der maßgeblichen Lehrer William Harveys, werden Schnürstrümpfe aus Hundeleder erwähnt"
or
"Der große englische Arzt Richard Wiseman beschreibt Verbände und Schnürstrümpfe gegen Geschwüre und Krampfaderleiden"
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +2 | laced stockings |
Alison MacG
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| 4 +4 | lace up stockings |
franglish
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| 4 | rigid lace-up stockings (in line with reference entry) |
Ellen Kraus
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| 3 | compression stockings |
Sue Stewart-Anderson (X)
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| 3 | (laced-up) fitted stockings |
Lirka
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| 3 -1 | surgical stockings/support stockings |
Jeanette Phillips
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References
| lace up stockings |
Ellen Kraus
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Proposed translations
+2
16 mins
Alison MacG
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
Patents and related material specialist
Native in: English (Variants: Scottish, UK, British)
Works in: German to English, French to English, Swedish to English, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
Selected
laced stockings
It was probably Richard Wiseman (1622–1676), surgeon to Charles II, who appreciated the relationship be-tween ulceration and circulatory pa-thology. Wiseman coined the term ‘varicose ulcer’ and developed a laced stocking made of dog leather to compress the leg and eliminate venous oedema. (p. 2)
http://www.rnzcgp.org.nz/assets/teach_prac/NZFP/June2006/Jul...
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Note added at 31 mins (2009-03-02 17:31:43 GMT)
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The unsightliness and pain in the leg may be helped by wearing a laced stocking; a laced trouse will do as much for the thigh. Wiseman.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=lp0RAAAAIAAJ&pg=PT580&lpg...
http://www.rnzcgp.org.nz/assets/teach_prac/NZFP/June2006/Jul...
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Note added at 31 mins (2009-03-02 17:31:43 GMT)
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The unsightliness and pain in the leg may be helped by wearing a laced stocking; a laced trouse will do as much for the thigh. Wiseman.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=lp0RAAAAIAAJ&pg=PT580&lpg...
Note from asker:
| Vielen Dank für die Referenzen!! |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Many thanks again!!"
5 mins
compression stockings
Possibly
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Note added at 6 mins (2009-03-02 17:07:01 GMT)
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This site has a lot of alternative names:
http://www.compressionstockings.co.uk/
eg. Support stockings, support panty hose, support socks, support tights, compression tights etc etc
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Note added at 6 mins (2009-03-02 17:07:01 GMT)
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This site has a lot of alternative names:
http://www.compressionstockings.co.uk/
eg. Support stockings, support panty hose, support socks, support tights, compression tights etc etc
Note from asker:
| Vielen Dank für den Link! |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Cetacea
: The term the asker is looking for is "Schnürstrümpfe" (history!) rather than "Stützstrümpfe".
1 hr
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| neutral |
Lirka
: in essence they were some sort of compression stockings, but the asker is looking for the historical counterpart
2 hrs
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| agree |
Dr.G.MD (X)
: like Cetacea and Lirka
4 hrs
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+4
13 mins
lace up stockings
In the late 1700s, Theden used modified lace-up dog leather stockings originally described by Fabrizio d'Aquapendente (1537-1619), in the treatment of ...
Wiseman (1676), using rigid lace-up stockings applied over the lower calf in an attempt to heal leg ..... ommended during episodes of inflammatory phlebitis ...
www.ojmedtech.com/pdfs/clinic5.pdf
Wiseman (1676), using rigid lace-up stockings applied over the lower calf in an attempt to heal leg ..... ommended during episodes of inflammatory phlebitis ...
www.ojmedtech.com/pdfs/clinic5.pdf
Note from asker:
| Vielen Dank für die historische Quelle!! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Cetacea
1 hr
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Thank you, Cetacea
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| agree |
Lirka
2 hrs
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Thanks, Lirka
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| agree |
Ingeborg Gowans (X)
: checks out; right term here
2 hrs
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Danke, Ingeborg!
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| agree |
Dr.G.MD (X)
4 hrs
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Thanks, Dr. G
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| neutral |
Lancashireman
: Congrats on taking a commanding lead here. But any reason for dropping the hyphen?
5 hrs
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No reson, Andrew, other than a lack of attention... mea culpa.
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45 mins
Jeanette Phillips
Native in English
lateral thinker
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English, French to English, English
Related KudoZ points
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3
surgical stockings/support stockings
In British English, they are called surgical stockings generally. Support stockings is also used, as the British don't like to admit they might need them. They are also be called anti-embolism stockings.
Note from asker:
| Danke, Jeannette!! |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Cetacea
: The term the asker is looking for is "Schnürstrümpfe" (history!) rather than "Stützstrümpfe".//@lirka: I know that, but patients often refer to "Kompressionsstrümpfe" as "Stützstrümpfe", and I'm pretty sure that's what the answerer misread it for.
1 hr
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okay, thanks for pointing out the difference. I can see it now.
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| neutral |
Lirka
: with cetacea on the idea that the asker is looking for the historical term rather than the modern term; but Stuetzstruempfe, Cetacea, are not usually classified as (therapeutic) compression stocking; rather, they are simply called support stockings
1 hr
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oh dear... thanks for for the information. my mistake.
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1 hr
Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
Native in German
Specializes in field
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
341
rigid lace-up stockings (in line with reference entry)
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Note from asker:
| Vielen Dank, Ellen - auch für den interessanten Link!! |
2 hrs
(laced-up) fitted stockings
Since in those times the garments did not stretch, they had to be fitted.
They are the precursor of the modern compression stockings that display graded pressures along the leg to allow for the correct venous circulation from the periphery to the heart... but of course you know that, Harald! I just got carried away...
Truly a pro question!
They are the precursor of the modern compression stockings that display graded pressures along the leg to allow for the correct venous circulation from the periphery to the heart... but of course you know that, Harald! I just got carried away...
Truly a pro question!
Note from asker:
| Vielen Dank, Lirka!! |
Reference comments
1 hr
Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
Native in German
Specializes in field
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
341
Reference:
lace up stockings
for medical purposes:
Medical hosiery represents a useful and convenient method of applying ... In the 17th century, Pierre Dionis who was Surgeon-in-Ordinary to the queen of ... recommended the use of rigid lace-up stockings made from coarse linen or dog ..... Although non extensible bandages can be used for this purpose, a product ...
www.worldwidewounds.com/1997/september/Thomas-Bandaging/ban... - 50k -
Medical hosiery represents a useful and convenient method of applying ... In the 17th century, Pierre Dionis who was Surgeon-in-Ordinary to the queen of ... recommended the use of rigid lace-up stockings made from coarse linen or dog ..... Although non extensible bandages can be used for this purpose, a product ...
www.worldwidewounds.com/1997/september/Thomas-Bandaging/ban... - 50k -
Discussion
I finally went with Alison's suggestion, which is the term used today when looking back on those earlier years.
Many thanks in advance!!