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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

einflussstark

English translation:

very/highly influential

Added to glossary by Helen Shiner
Sep 20, 2008 14:16
15 yrs ago
German term

einflussstark

German to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting biography
Delirierend infantil, großspurig im XXL-Format, grotesk und voll bösen Humors – so zeigt sich das Werk dieses einflussstarken Künstlers.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +8 very influential
3 +2 forcefully/incisively influential
3 to exert a strong influence
3 definitively influential
3 (the characteristics that make...) this artist such a forceful influence (on the scene, etc.)
Change log

Sep 20, 2008 19:29: Steffen Walter changed "Field (write-in)" from "biografia" to "biography" , "May Offend" from "Checked" to "Not Checked"

Sep 25, 2008 17:45: Helen Shiner Created KOG entry

Discussion

Helen Shiner Sep 20, 2008:
No offence taken! Ok, I understand what you are saying, Michael; I'll have a think about it.
Michael Schickenberg (X) Sep 20, 2008:
The system probably took XXL for XXX (X-rated)...
Michael Schickenberg (X) Sep 20, 2008:
@Helen Shiner Helen, no offence intended. What I mean is that "einflussstark" kind of sticks out as not "normal" to native German ears (you would expect "einflussREICH" and then suddenly you find "einflussSTARK", the author chose the latter one for its effect). Your suggestions do not stick out to English ears, IMO, they sound plain "normal". The transmitted sense/meaning is absolutely correct, but there is a lack of "effect". Isn't there any English term/phrase that sounds more unfamiliar (less to be expected) to native speakers of Englisch?
Joana Almeida (asker) Sep 20, 2008:
Sorry. But it wasn't me who classified it as potentially offensive. If I did it, it was without intention!
David Moore (X) Sep 20, 2008:
Potentially offensive? In what way? Saying some unkind things (or are they totally realistic?) about an unnamed artist??

Proposed translations

+8
6 mins
Selected

very influential

I think it is simply that. I don't think we say 'strongly influential', so 'very' or 'extremely' or some such variant would do.

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Note added at 43 mins (2008-09-20 14:59:52 GMT)
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In light of Michael's comments, maybe 'powerfully influential' would be sufficiently unusual yet retain the meaning of the source.
Peer comment(s):
agree Orion Schmidt : or maybe "highly influential"
2 mins
Thanks, Orion, that's a good way round it.
neutral Michael Schickenberg (X) : This would be a perfect translation for "einflussREICH". "Einflussstark", however, sounds somewhat "stronger", more "extraordinary" to my ears. IMHO this should be maintained in the translation, if possible. /// See discussion entry.
9 mins
Perhaps you didn't read that I also suggested 'extremely' influential?/Powerfully influential? It would make the reader sit up, at least.
agree savaria (X)
24 mins
Thanks, savaria
agree Lonnie Legg : Considered "powerfully influential" myself--and rejected it. 2 reasons: -stark here is really the same as -reich (perhaps author just wanted to use something less worn-out). Powerfully infl. (i.e.: "mächtig einflussreich") would probably be overdoing it.)
1 hr
Thanks, Lonnie
agree Anne Wieser : I'm also with the *very* or *extremely*, *highly* also does it.. thesaurus it...
2 hrs
Thanks, Anne
agree Melanie Nassar : very influential is influential enough IMO
3 hrs
Thanks, Melanie
agree KARIN ISBELL
4 hrs
Thanks, Karin
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
7 hrs
Thank you, Harald
agree Gert Sass (M.A.)
1 day 0 min
Thank you, Gert
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
17 mins

to exert a strong influence

who exerts a strong influence
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+2
1 hr

forcefully/incisively influential

given the foregoing description and Michael's comment
Peer comment(s):
agree Rebecca Garber : would fit with the linguistic discussion.
7 mins
thanks, Rebecca
neutral Lonnie Legg : Maybe (depends on context)--but see my comment @Helen.
16 mins
thanks, Lonnie. Unfortunately, only the asker has the context and, eventually, the name of the artist
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
2 days 14 hrs
thank you, Harald!
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2 hrs

definitively influential

If the context suggests that his influence was authoritative or lasting this one might fit.

definitive: decisive, with authority
Example sentence:

One of many bands who can be said to be definitively influential.

Reference:

http://hwww.metafilter.com/69140/Early-Kraftwerk-YouTube

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1 day 2 hrs

(the characteristics that make...) this artist such a forceful influence (on the scene, etc.)

Rephrasing might open the field for the stronger connotation of einflussSTARK as noted by Michael.
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