May 25, 2007 22:53
16 yrs ago
French term
Ses attributs sont la faux et le sablier
French to English
Art/Literary
History
Moyen âge, mythes, etc...
Voilà, une dernière phrase sur laquelle j'ai un doute...
Merci.
"Je veux maintenant vous parler de mon père, fils d’Ouranos, le Ciel, et de Gaïa, la Terre, et Roi des Titans : Cronos !
Ses attributs sont la faux et le sablier".
Je ne suis pas sûre qu'attributes soit le meilleur choix...
"His attributes are the scythe and the hourglass"?
Merci.
"Je veux maintenant vous parler de mon père, fils d’Ouranos, le Ciel, et de Gaïa, la Terre, et Roi des Titans : Cronos !
Ses attributs sont la faux et le sablier".
Je ne suis pas sûre qu'attributes soit le meilleur choix...
"His attributes are the scythe and the hourglass"?
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attributes / emblems (both are accepted)
I understand why you might have doubts about "attributes": because in general English likes to use the word for abstract qualities or characteristics. In fact, though, it is a term accepted by (say) art historians for this very context.
To demonstrate the point, I recommend the following googles:
"attribute of St."
"emblem of St."
You will see that the English-language literature supports both. (Ignore of course anything translated from another language or seeming to have been written by a non-native speaker)
To demonstrate the point, I recommend the following googles:
"attribute of St."
"emblem of St."
You will see that the English-language literature supports both. (Ignore of course anything translated from another language or seeming to have been written by a non-native speaker)
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Tony M
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thanks Tony.
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Assimina Vavoula
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thank you A
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Cervin
: Your noter helped me to decide-I was thinking along the lines of 'device' as in heraldry but I knew that wasnt the right word here.!
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great! thanks C
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Martin Cassell
: prefer attributes - this is the correct technical term used in cultural/religious/art studies - see for example http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-bin/WebObjects.dll/Col...
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thank you Martin, must be right.
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Mark Nathan
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thanks Mark
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jean-jacques alexandre
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merci bien J-J
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Christopher Crockett
: Yes, saints (and gods) have "attributes" in art history --frequently these are the only means for making a proper iconographic identification.
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thank you Christopher
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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he is always shown with a scythe and an hour glass
Another possibility that side-steps the whole attribute/emblem/symbol issue.
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his symbols are the scythe(or sickle) and hourglass
I know Tony is going to say that "une faux" is a scythe and "une faucille" is a sickle !!!!
In most of the documents I have found he is depicted with a sickle and as he used it to castrate his father a scythe might be a little difficult to use!!!! xo(
In most of the documents I have found he is depicted with a sickle and as he used it to castrate his father a scythe might be a little difficult to use!!!! xo(
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Characteristics/Distinguishing features
Two oother suggestions. I prefer distinguishing features.
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his distinctive signs are scythe and hourglass
"emblem" , perhaps
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Note added at 4 days (2007-05-30 07:47:18 GMT)
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What I find rather strange about the scythe being one of Cronos' attribute is that that instrument was invented in the 14th or 15th century in western Europe!
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Note added at 4 days (2007-05-30 07:47:18 GMT)
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What I find rather strange about the scythe being one of Cronos' attribute is that that instrument was invented in the 14th or 15th century in western Europe!
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Carol Gullidge
: yes, I was just about to put this! The design is the Grim Reaper holding his Scythe and an hour glass to remind us that our time is almost up! The scythe has foiled detailing that makes it ...
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Thank you Carol!
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swisstell
: or sickle instead of scythe
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Thank Swiss!
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Ingeborg Gowans (X)
: see Psalm 90:12
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Thank you Ingeborg!
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Tony M
: 'distinctive signs' sounds too much like personal features (moles, scars, tatoos, etc.) And SwissTell, please note that it IS a 'scythe' and NOT a 'sickle', which is a different implement again.
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Thank you Tony, I wasn't sure "attributes" could be used ..By the way , this "imagery" is historically false, unless it's some sort of tale for children...
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