Sep 4, 2006 13:25
17 yrs ago
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French term
France
Accuracy & timeliness
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, Spanish to French, French
tarif des prestations
French to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
Les tarifs des prestations s’entendent nets, et seront majorés de la TVA légalement en vigueur lors de la manifestation.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | charges for services |
Marc Glinert
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| 5 +3 | rates for services provided |
Carla Selyer
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| 4 +2 | rates for services provided |
David BUICK
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| 3 +2 | service fees |
Anna Quail
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| 4 | price(s) for services |
Barnaby Capel-Dunn
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Proposed translations
1 hr
Marc Glinert
Native in English
Works in field
20 years in financial services
Native in: English
Works in: English to French, French to English
Related KudoZ points
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34
Selected
charges for services
The above comments are spot on. We really need to know the sector. But as a general rule, I would say that "charges" is more commonly used than "fees".
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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2006-09-05 15:01:31 GMT)
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perhaps Julie will let us know the nature of the services in question
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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2006-09-05 15:01:31 GMT)
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perhaps Julie will let us know the nature of the services in question
Note from asker:
| This is about a fair based on services offered to disabled and elderly dependent people. |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Anna Quail
: Marc, I agree with most of your comments. To me "price" is factual, "rates" is a translator's reflex answer, because it's the term we use for our profession.// OK - I stand corrected :-) The question is about the "tarif des prestations", however.
19 hrs
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the sector here, FrenchtoEnglish, is Marketing (trade fairs) and not care for the old/disabled. It is floor space which is being sold and not ambulance rides
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thanks for all your comments"
+3
6 mins
Carla Selyer
Native in English
Specializes in field
Portuguese, French & Spanish specialist
Native in: Portuguese , English
Works in: Portuguese to English, Spanish to English, English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
rates for services provided
The rates for services provided are expressed in net terms
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
David BUICK
: Snap!
0 min
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| agree |
Julie Barber
37 mins
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| agree |
Christopher Burin
11 hrs
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+2
6 mins
David BUICK
Native in English
Specializes in field
Reactive, reliable, win/win service
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
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99
rates for services provided
depends a bit on what is being sold...
8 mins
Barnaby Capel-Dunn
Native in English
Specializes in field
Wide interests, passion for accuracy
Native in: English
Works in: French to English
Related KudoZ points
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4
price(s) for services
Since this looks like a contract (or perhaps conditions of sale) I think it is probably less risky to use the above expression
+2
39 mins
Anna Quail
France
France
Native in English
France
Once a translator...
Native in: English (Variants: Irish, UK, British)
Works in: French to English, English
Related KudoZ points
:
4
service fees
Depends on the sector.
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Note added at 20 hrs (2006-09-05 10:12:05 GMT)
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I have just noticed your answer to Marc. The word "fees" is used in the sector you mention (care for the elderly, etc.)
See http://www.jrf.org.uk/pressroom/releases/160698.asp
"Study reveals £80 million gap between fees and state funding for elderly people in care homes
Thousands of elderly and disabled people living in independent care homes are having to depend on 'top up' payments from relatives, charities or their personal spending allowances because state payments are too low to cover basic costs.
Research published by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation estimates that £80 million a year is being spent on bridging the gap between care home fees and the amount that state agencies are willing to pay. Elderly and disabled people who moved into residential care before 1993 - whose fees are paid directly by the Department of Social Security (DSS) - are especially likely to be in need of top-up payments. "
http://www.nhfa.co.uk/modules/standard/viewpage.asp?id=1
"NHFA Care Fees Advice
NHFA advice and information is available to all regardless of means and encompasses the many financial and funding issues older people, their families or carers should consider when obtaining and paying for care."
http://www.seniorsnetwork.co.uk/health/personalcare.htm
"Anyone currently in a care home who wants to apply for free personal or nursing care must notify their local authority.
People currently having care home fees funded by the local authority (about 25,000 people over 65 in Scotland) will continue to contribute their state pension and benefit income and will not be affected by the new free personal care policy.
People over 65 who currently fund their own care home fees in full (about 7,500 people in Scotland) will not need to be assessed – those now in residential homes will receive £145 for personal care per week, and those in nursing homes will get £210 per week for personal plus nursing care.
People over 65 who currently pay part of their fees but receive a ‘top up’ from the local authority: "
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Note added at 20 hrs (2006-09-05 10:12:05 GMT)
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I have just noticed your answer to Marc. The word "fees" is used in the sector you mention (care for the elderly, etc.)
See http://www.jrf.org.uk/pressroom/releases/160698.asp
"Study reveals £80 million gap between fees and state funding for elderly people in care homes
Thousands of elderly and disabled people living in independent care homes are having to depend on 'top up' payments from relatives, charities or their personal spending allowances because state payments are too low to cover basic costs.
Research published by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation estimates that £80 million a year is being spent on bridging the gap between care home fees and the amount that state agencies are willing to pay. Elderly and disabled people who moved into residential care before 1993 - whose fees are paid directly by the Department of Social Security (DSS) - are especially likely to be in need of top-up payments. "
http://www.nhfa.co.uk/modules/standard/viewpage.asp?id=1
"NHFA Care Fees Advice
NHFA advice and information is available to all regardless of means and encompasses the many financial and funding issues older people, their families or carers should consider when obtaining and paying for care."
http://www.seniorsnetwork.co.uk/health/personalcare.htm
"Anyone currently in a care home who wants to apply for free personal or nursing care must notify their local authority.
People currently having care home fees funded by the local authority (about 25,000 people over 65 in Scotland) will continue to contribute their state pension and benefit income and will not be affected by the new free personal care policy.
People over 65 who currently fund their own care home fees in full (about 7,500 people in Scotland) will not need to be assessed – those now in residential homes will receive £145 for personal care per week, and those in nursing homes will get £210 per week for personal plus nursing care.
People over 65 who currently pay part of their fees but receive a ‘top up’ from the local authority: "
Peer comment(s):
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Anne J (X)
: I believe fee is more appropriate than price or rate
37 mins
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Thank you Anne :-)
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| agree |
Josephine79
: Yes, fee sounds better to me, too.
3 hrs
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Thank you Josephine79 :-)
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| neutral |
Marc Glinert
: do you, Anne? Only really for white collar professionals (legal fees, doctor's fees...)
19 hrs
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I agree with you that it depends on the sector. However fees are not exclusively limited to white collar professionals. I have seen the word "fees" used for computer repair services, for instance.
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Discussion
Also, does anyone else agree with me that “rates” “prices” is sort of factual, what the good or service costs, but “fees” “charges” has a subtle difference in that we are actually asking someone to pay something.
And in the end it doesn’t really matter as the document will be perfectly clear to all.