Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

matériaux de récupération

English translation:

reclaimed materials

Added to glossary by Connor
Aug 5, 2005 15:37
18 yrs ago
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French term

matériaux de récupération

French to English Marketing Marketing / Market Research any old iron
Context: ...maison de 297m2, construite avec des matériaux de récupération, elle offre de grands volumes, 4 grandes chambres, 4 salles de bain...

I am looking for nice way to express 'récupération': this is (going to be) a very expensive house on a very expensive plot with a very expensive brochure and a very expensive translation ;-)

Suggestions: reworked material; salvaged material; vintage materials...
None of these really hit the mark for me, any suggestions welcome.

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Aug 7, 2005:
Jane Lamb Ruiz - what a snooty 'agree' - and I don't even think you are right to boot!!! Either I am very stupid and cannot see the obvious or translation also (thankfully) offers a certain level of creative input - maybe you should stick to heartless company accounts or boring legal texts... (thanks again suezen for the input though)
French Foodie Aug 5, 2005:
Connor, I think Anna hit the nail on the head! Now I remember seeing this used to describe the houses I mentioned earlier (made from castles, ruins, etc.)
Non-ProZ.com Aug 5, 2005:
thanks Charlie B - these are new houses and the reference would be to vintage/character materials so I think that should be OK.
Non-ProZ.com Aug 5, 2005:
thanks again suezen, also thanks mara - I was just looking at the Aix powwow and saw you are in the Luberon - these houses are in Gordes, Lacoste, M�nerbes etc... you know the style, chic et cher...
Charlie Bavington Aug 5, 2005:
Might be worth checking that "vintage" doesn't imply anything precise in buildings, j-u-s-t in case, since it does for wine, cars, etc...
suezen Aug 5, 2005:
vintage sounds good
Non-ProZ.com Aug 5, 2005:
thanks Suezen, I should have mentioned recycled too... it is the best translation in my opinion but sounds a bit too much like "off the rubbish tip" for this type of text.
thanks Allan, nice one!! love it! I'm going to tell my mother she isn't old, she's got character, wonderful stuff!! It's between character and vintage for the moment...

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reclaimed materials

Think this is the correct term.

see:
http://www.reclaimed-building-materials.net/special_items.ht...

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http://www.ransfords.com/

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http://www.reclaimbuildingsupply.com/

etc. etc.
Peer comment(s):

agree French Foodie : I think this is definitely it: see "New Old House: Designing with Reclaimed Materials." http://www.thesylvaherald.com/B-Knapp120602.htm
6 mins
thanks mara
agree jbc : yes, this is definitely the correct term in UK English - that's what the people in the business call it "reclamation", "reclaimed materials"
11 mins
ta jbc
agree cmwilliams (X)
1 hr
agree Charlie Bavington : Yeah, I think this is the right term
1 hr
agree suezen : sounds good for houses, definitely
1 hr
agree Philippe Maillard
17 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "reclaimed it will be - thanks a lot (I'll slip in character and vintage too I think :-)"
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recycled materials

for example

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makes it sound environmentally friendly too
Peer comment(s):

agree mcguegan
4 mins
agree DocteurPC : it is environmentally friendly - Hooray for recycling!
9 mins
agree Flo in London
16 mins
agree Sandra C.
1 hr
agree Jane Lamb-Ru (X) : of course...frankly, the context makes it obvious doesn't it?
23 hrs
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French term (edited): mat�riaux de r�cup�ration

(aged) character materials

Maybe something like this

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Conor, for me, \"vintage\" is too closely associated with cars and wine. Just doesn\'t seem right for building materials!
Peer comment(s):

neutral sarahl (X) : sorry hon, character sounds too nice for this.//ce serait pas de la récup alors !
2 hrs
Not if these are carefully chosen, tasteful materials designed to build what is apparently a luxury home - according to Connor. :-) Et si, pourquoi pas ?! Let me change the word "designed" in my earlier comment to "intended" = the nicest of reclaimed mat.
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French term (edited): mat�riaux de r�cup�ration

recuperated materials

I actually think the literal translation sounds mice here. Recuperation is a word used a lot in the art world, so that may appeal to your readership ;-)

Take this example from the Andrew Edlin gallery in New York:

http://www.edlingallery.com/dynamic/artist_bio.asp?ArtistID=...
After studying theology and hotel administration, Richard Greaves (1952) worked as a chef and graphic designer in the Montreal region. In 1982, he decided to change his life and moved to a small village in the Beauce region of Quebec. On the land and in the forest nearby his house, he created many assemblages with recuperated materials. About the objects he assembles, he has written, “I very much liked and observed old objects, used objects, objects worn down by the force of time and human history. I am a being that has served, been transformed, an object that wants to be understood and enlightened, and that likes to be used.”

Or this university design course:

http://dart_448.hybrid.concordia.ca/sidim.html
The Project
We intend to design a piece of furniture or an item with a practical purpose that suits the criteria of interior design. We aim for an innovative solution in the sense of Eco-design and Design for Sustainable Development. The project should be understood as a contribution to the search for alternative methods and concepts in interior and product design.
The following list suggests conceptual approaches and possibilities of interpretation. These criteria are requisite for the Québec Éco-Design contest:
-A product that is made from recycled or recuperated materials
-A piece of furniture that facilitates recycling
-An item that can be produce without the side effects of pollution and environmental harm
-A product that helps reducing the consumption energy in terms of its production and use
-A durable product with a life cycle considerably longer than what is currently on the market
-A product that promotes habits and life styles well disposed toward ecological concern

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Yeah, Connor, I know the type all right (and I\'m sure not living in one meself!). But the big trend in the area now seems to be building your \"new\" house with old stones from castles and ruins. If you can find exactly what salvaged materials they are actually using for this particular house, it could make it sound even more enticing for buyers.
\"built from the stone of centuries-old ruins\" blah, blah, blah,
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French term (edited): mat�riaux de r�cup�ration

salvaged

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Peer comment(s):

agree Claire Cox
3 mins
thanks Claire!
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French term (edited): mat�riaux de r�cup�ration

salvaged materials

I was going to say - then I see you have it in your list already. We talk about archiectural salvage yeards, though, so I dn't see why not...

Also see:

Reuse Salvaged MaterialsHowever, use of salvaged materials typically requires finding them early, ... Specifying use of salvaged materials in contract documents is the best way to ...
greenbuildings.santa-monica.org/ materials/matsalvagedmaterials.html - 35k -


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Oops, typing too fast - meant to say \"architectural salvage yards\" - must be that glass of champagne I had this afternoon to celebrate exchange of contracts on my new house!
Peer comment(s):

agree sarahl (X) : indeed... :-)
4 mins
neutral French Foodie : enjoy the bubbly!
3 hrs
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French term (edited): mat�riaux de r�cup�ration

recovered materials

or "materials recovered from ..."

Therefore, the main station building was built in 1991 using materials recovered
from the disused Lodge Hill station on the Cheddar Valley line and the ...
www.eastsomersetrailway.com/about/cranmore.php

A wall built of bricks recovered from the demolition of old buildings ... In using
old bricks, therefore, the builder should revert if possible to the old ...
irc.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/cbd/cbd138e.html

Features the archaeological materials recovered from the 14th -15th century burial
site in ... These boats were constructed using a very ancient technique. ...
members.tripod.com/philmuseum/archaeo.htm

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I think \"recovered\" makes them sound a bit more specifically or purposefully \"selected\" - or \"select\"(!)
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