Jul 30, 2015 16:51
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Russian term

лицензия № --- от 02.02.2011

Russian to English Tech/Engineering Military / Defense
What is the standard natural translation for this construction in formal documentation? There are many examples of this (лицензия № 6306696 серия ПРД от 10.01.2014; лицензия № 11047-ПП от 24.02.2011 г.; etc.). Is it appropriate to just write "License No. ----, acquired on ----" ? Thanks!
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Aug 2, 2015 20:23: Oleg Lozinskiy Created KOG entry

Aug 3, 2015 07:29: Natalie changed "Removed from KOG" from "лицензия № --- от 02.02.2011 > License No. ... dated February 2, 2011 by <a href="/profile/1620746">Oleg Lozinskiy</a>" to "Reason: "

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License No. ... dated February 2, 2011

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To: ASKER

'Dated' (imho) combines EVERYTHING (issued/adopted/approved/promulgated/enforced/received).

It's just one of the two 'features' that distinguishes any formal document from the series of similar ones - NUMBER (sometimes 'alphanumeric') + DATE.
Note from asker:
Is there a noticeable stylistic difference between 'issued' and 'dated' for you in these examples?
Peer comment(s):

agree Lazyt3ch : По-моему, в общем случае предпочтительнее не использовать форматы вроде DD/MM/YYYY :-)
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Спасибо, Рашид!
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License # ... issued 2/2/2011

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Hrm, for formal No. is better I suppose
Note from asker:
Is the symbol "#" best for formal documentation, or is "No." preferred?
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License No. --- of/dated 02/02/2011

Peer comment(s):

agree The Misha : This is the most common usage.Of/dated largely depends on regional differences,but the further away the No. is from the date the more it tends to become "dated" regardless.E.g., License No. 123 for Mass Nosepicking Under the Nightly Sky DATED 02.03.05
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Thanks.
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Licence No ... issued 2/2/2011

There can be "Date of Issue", but the original states "от", which is "From", which could be seen as place rather than time. So, "Issued" is the only right version.

Also, licence for the UK and Australia.
Note from asker:
Very helpful observation on "licence"! It's hard for me to catch UK English sometimes. One thing - did you intentionally leave off the "." after "Licence No"?
Peer comment(s):

neutral Oleg Lozinskiy : Issued? Approved? Enforced? Promulgated? etc., etc.
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It can be "." or ":", I normally follow the original, but here is just "№". I would try to avoid making it to look as if I am trying to correct. I think, it's up to the translator.
disagree The Misha : "Making it to look" alone tells me you are a native speaker of R. rather than E. No Russian native would ever consider "ot" in this particular case as referring to place rather than time. The standard format here is No._ of/dated_. And you do need the dot
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Снимаю шляпу, маэстро! (Но всё-таки issued)
disagree Yuri Zhukov : Agree with Oleg. Onlu unexperienced Russian translator writes 'from' istead of 'of' or 'dd."
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