Cristina Crişan Apr 30, 2011:

dicţ. Oxford :-) FEAST : an annual religious celebration; a day dedicated to a particular saint: the feast of St John.
FESTIVAL : a day or period of celebration, typically for religious reasons: traditional Jewish festivals.

Total neutru ar fi traditional celebrations.

Anca Mitocaru Apr 29, 2011:

Nu e vorba de faptul ca e "primul sens", ci ca atunci cand aud "feast" cei mai multi oameni se gandesc la sensul respectiv.
Ti-am argumentat alegerea mea, dar nu te obliga nimeni sa o accepti. Ai pus o intrebare si eu am raspuns.

alegna851 (asker) Apr 29, 2011:

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Daca "popular" e debatable, pentru ca sunt contexte in care este utilizat si cu acest sens, "festival" nu se potriveste in context. Si nu stiu de ce ti se pare ca primul sens dintr-un dictionar conteaza- conteaza sensul care se potriveste in context. Daca "feast" are drept prim sens "masa imbelsugata" nu insemna ca il excludem pt. ca nu e "sabatoare" primul sens. Nu inteleg argumentul asta cu "primul sens din dictionar".

Anca Mitocaru Apr 29, 2011:

Si popular in merriam-webster:
Definition of POPULAR
1
: of or relating to the general public
2
: suitable to the majority: as a : adapted to or indicative of the understanding and taste of the majority <a popular history of the war> b : suited to the means of the majority : inexpensive <sold at popular prices>
3
: frequently encountered or widely accepted <a popular theory>
4
: commonly liked or approved <a very popular girl>

Anca Mitocaru Apr 29, 2011:

Si pt. "popular":

popular

Pronunciation:/ˈpɒpjʊlə/
adjective

1 liked or admired by many people or by a particular person or group:she was one of the most popular girls in the schoolthese cheeses are very popular in Europe
2 [attributive] (of cultural activities or products) intended for or suited to the taste, understanding, or means of the general public rather than specialists or intellectuals:editorials accusing the government of wanting to gag the popular press
(of a belief or attitude) held by the majority of the general public:many adult cats , contrary to popular opinion, dislike milk
3 [attributive] (of political activity) carried on by the people as a whole rather than restricted to politicians or political parties:a popular revolt against colonial rule

Again, nici urma de vreo apropiere le sensul romanesc "din popor"

Anca Mitocaru Apr 29, 2011:

uite definitia lui "festival" conform oxford dictionary:

festival

Pronunciation:/ˈfɛstɪv(ə)l/
noun

1 a day or period of celebration, typically for religious reasons:traditional Jewish festivals
2 an organized series of concerts, plays, or films, typically one held annually in the same place:a major international festival of song

si pt. "feast":
feast

Pronunciation:/fiːst/
noun

1 a large meal, typically a celebratory one:a wedding feast
a plentiful supply of something enjoyable:the concert season offers a feast of classical music
2 an annual religious celebration.
a day dedicated to a particular saint:the feast of St John
British an annual village festival.

Asadar, primul sens al lui "feast" e de "masa imbelsugata". De asta spun ca "festival" mi se pare mai potrivit.

alegna851 (asker) Apr 29, 2011:

Hai sa mai incercam o referinta "mai serioasa" despre traditii romanesti. A se obs. utilizarea termenului "popular" (ca nu se refera la religia cea mai "cool"):

http://books.google.ro/books?id=lVBB1a0rC70C&pg=PA771&lpg=PA...

alegna851 (asker) Apr 29, 2011:

Si iata si definitia lui "festival", according to the Merriam-Webster:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/festival
1 a : a time of celebration marked by special observances b : feast 2
2
: an often periodic celebration or program of events or entertainment having a specified focus <a daffodil festival> <a Greek festival>
3
: gaiety, conviviality
See festival defined for English-language learners »
Examples of FESTIVAL

Each year, a festival was held to celebrate the harvest.
The town has a summer festival in the park.

E definit ca form of entertainment si nu in context religios.

Anca Mitocaru Apr 29, 2011:

Ideea e ca asker-ul vrea ca termenul sa imbine si sensul crestin, si cel pagan, dupa cum spune in intrebare. Deci nu se refera doar la "Christian".

Ilona Roberts Apr 29, 2011:

"Christian feasts", nu "festivals"... e o mare diferenta, in opinia mea (iar wikipaedia nu e intotdeauna cea mai buna sursa)

George C. Apr 29, 2011:

aş combina răspunsurile colegelor: traditional feast (days), deşi delimitarea feast/festival nu e strictă. Festival păstrează sensul de sărbătoare (poate de amploare mia mare), iar conform unelor referinţe Crăciunul, Paştele şi Rusaliile ar fi cele 3 mari "festivals" în creştinism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_festival#Christian_re...

http://www.stpaulskingsville.org/pentecost.htm

http://www.bibleresearch.org/pentecosttopics.html

Anca Mitocaru Apr 29, 2011:

feast
n.
1.
a. A large, elaborately prepared meal, usually for many persons and often accompanied by entertainment; a banquet.
b. A meal that is well prepared and abundantly enjoyed.
2. A periodic religious festival commemorating an event or honoring a god or saint.
3. Something giving great pleasure or satisfaction

Asadar, "feast" ori da de inteles ceva gen "ospat", ori o sarbatoare religioasa. Dupa cum vezi din definitie, e partea religioasa a lui "festival".

Ca sa nu mai spun ca "popular" nu are deloc sensul din romana si in engleza, ci inseamna "widely liked or appreciated". Se intelege din context ca nu e vorba de festival de muzica folk, dar oricum poti folosi "traditional".

Uite mai multe detalii:
A festival is an event, usually and ordinarily staged by a local community, which centers on and celebrates some unique aspect of that community and the Festival.
Among many religions, a feast is a set of celebrations in honour of God or gods. A feast and a festival are historically interchangeable. However, the term "feast" has also entered common secular parlance as a synonym for any large or elaborate meal.

Cred ca "festival" da mai clar intelesul de "sarbatoare".

alegna851 (asker) Apr 29, 2011:

Nu stiu ce sa zic, dar parca nu mi se pare ok "festival". Din ce gasesc eu ca referinte, "festival" e utilizat pentru a denumi chiar festivale, in genul Hora de la Prislop, etc.
Iata doar un exemplu:
http://www.responsibletravel.com/holiday/5032/festival-holid...
http://www.mediafax.ro/social/basescu-a-deschis-festivalul-h...
Nu il vad nicaieri utilizat ca denumire a unei sarbatori, ci doar a festivalurilor si manifestarilor de tip non-crestin.

Ca sa nu mai spun ca in combinatie cu termenul "folk", se intelege festival de muzica folk.