Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Portuguese term or phrase:
suprimidas as verbas rescisórias
English translation:
withholding the severance pay
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Verginia Ophof
Jan 23, 2012 20:34
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suprimidas as verbas rescisórias
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A relação de emprego extingue-se por ato do empregador com a dispensa do empregado, que será com ou sem justa causa, esta implicando a redução dos seus direitos, suprimidas as verbas rescisórias.
Does this mean the employees will not enjoy his severance pay benefits? That would seem odd in this case because it is a brief in which the claimant claims that his employer dismissed him without just cause and that he wasn't given his severance pay. Or does it mean that his rights are reduced once he has received his severance pay?
Does this mean the employees will not enjoy his severance pay benefits? That would seem odd in this case because it is a brief in which the claimant claims that his employer dismissed him without just cause and that he wasn't given his severance pay. Or does it mean that his rights are reduced once he has received his severance pay?
Proposed translations
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| 3 +1 | withholding the severance pay |
Verginia Ophof
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| 3 | on payment of severance pay |
Martin Riordan
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Jan 25, 2012 15:21: Verginia Ophof Created KOG entry
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Verginia Ophof
Belize
Belize
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Belize
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withholding the severance pay
or simply : without severance pay
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Comment: "I agree this is confusing. I ended up phrasing it as cryptically as it is in Portuguese. I imagine they copied the quote without proofreading what they had written."
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Martin Riordan
Brazil
Brazil
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English
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Brazil
Brazilian lawyer - 40+ years in Brazil
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, Portuguese (Variants: European/Portugal, Brazilian, Mozambican, Angolan) 
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on payment of severance pay
I cannot make sense of the text above, as to me it suggests that severance pay is lower "sem justa causa", which is the opposite of the case.
An employee dismissed "without just cause" receives a series of benefits: 30 days notice, with time off during that period to look for a new job, and also the employee pays him a fine of 40% of the value of severance pay accumulated during the period worked (8% of salary earned, thus effectively becoming 11.2% of salary earned) (and a further 10% fine to the government!). Also, the severance fund is automatically released to the employee in this situation.
"Just cause" is nigh impossible to prove, as labor judges take a flexible view of this. For example, in a case of a truck driver becoming drunk and crashing the vehicle, the labor judge did not consider this as a "just cause" for dismissing him, but a normal and understandable reaction to the stress of having a job and being a driver...
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Note added at 19 mins (2012-01-23 20:53:24 GMT)
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Correction: "... and also the employer pays him..."
An employee dismissed "without just cause" receives a series of benefits: 30 days notice, with time off during that period to look for a new job, and also the employee pays him a fine of 40% of the value of severance pay accumulated during the period worked (8% of salary earned, thus effectively becoming 11.2% of salary earned) (and a further 10% fine to the government!). Also, the severance fund is automatically released to the employee in this situation.
"Just cause" is nigh impossible to prove, as labor judges take a flexible view of this. For example, in a case of a truck driver becoming drunk and crashing the vehicle, the labor judge did not consider this as a "just cause" for dismissing him, but a normal and understandable reaction to the stress of having a job and being a driver...
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Note added at 19 mins (2012-01-23 20:53:24 GMT)
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Correction: "... and also the employer pays him..."
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