Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
obbligati solidali
English translation:
those jointly liable
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Jenny Cowd
Jan 11, 2007 10:20
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Italian term
obbligati solidali
Italian to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
The context is a surety policy.
...si costituisce fideiussore nell’interesse della DITTA STIPULANTE e dei suoi obbligati solidali ai sensi di legge...
...si costituisce fideiussore nell’interesse della DITTA STIPULANTE e dei suoi obbligati solidali ai sensi di legge...
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those jointly liable (in the context)
the signatory firm and those jointly liable with it. Liable that is to repay the debt which is being guaranteed.
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Momo, It is the standard legal terminology. If you and I agree to "joint" responsibility for a debt we repay it 50-50, but if you don't pay then I have to pay it all and vice versa. In another context that is what solidarity is all about.
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Momo, It is the standard legal terminology. If you and I agree to "joint" responsibility for a debt we repay it 50-50, but if you don't pay then I have to pay it all and vice versa. In another context that is what solidarity is all about.
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Peter Cox
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Rosanna Palermo
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Gennady Lapardin
: just a joke: the tsunami and the insurance company bear joint responsibility for the damage - people curse tsunami and take money from the insurer :)
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momo savino
: why *jointly*?
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Comment: "i'll go with this one. thanks everyone."
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supportive debtors
see link:
http://wakeuplife.org/?m=20060318
cheers
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for "obbligati=debtors".. see:
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=30382
http://wakeuplife.org/?m=20060318
cheers
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for "obbligati=debtors".. see:
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=30382
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joint obligors
That's what we say at the EC. I think the context is the same as the web page I'm attaching.
Reference:
http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:Ez25R9K-u3QJ:www.brazilianchamber.org.uk/download.asp
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Patricia Crotty
: or joint debtors
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Gennady Lapardin
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momo savino
: why *joint*?
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jointly (equally) obliged
jointly (equally) obliged
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affiliates/associates
and its affiliates, an affiliate is any company or any one having a business relation with the Company
You could also use Legal Affiliates
WordNet - Cite This Source affiliate
noun
1. a subordinate or subsidiary associate; a person who is affiliated with another or with an organization
2. a subsidiary or subordinate organization that is affiliated with another organization; "network affiliates"
verb
1. join in an affiliation; "They affiliated themselves with the organization"
2. keep company with; hang out with; "He associates with strange people"; "She affiliates with her colleagues" [syn: consort]
3. join in an affiliation; "The two colleges affiliated"
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Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source
as·so·ci·ate /v. əˈsoʊʃiˌeɪt, -si-; n., adj., əˈsoʊʃiɪt, -ˌeɪt, -si-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[v. uh-soh-shee-eyt, -see-; n., adj., uh-soh-shee-it, -eyt, -see-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -at·ed, -at·ing, noun, adjective
noun 7. a person who shares actively in anything as a business, enterprise, or undertaking; partner; colleague; fellow worker: He consulted with his associates before proceeding further.
8. a companion or comrade: my most intimate associates.
9. a confederate; an accomplice or ally: criminal associates.
10. anything usually accompanying or associated with another; an accompaniment or concomitant.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source as·so·ci·ate (ə-sō'shē-āt', -sē-) Pronunciation Key
v. as·so·ci·at·ed, as·so·ci·at·ing, as·so·ci·ates
adj. (-ĭt, -āt')
Joined with another or others and having equal or nearly equal status: an associate editor.
Having partial status or privileges: an associate member of the club.
Following or accompanying; concomitant.
[Middle English associaten, from Latin associāre, associāt- : ad-, ad- + socius, companion; see sekw-1 in Indo-European roots.]
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WordNet - Cite This Source associated
adjective
1. related to or accompanying; "Christmas and associated festivities"
2. joined in some kind of relationship (as a colleague or ally or companion etc.); "a cabal of associated lawyers"
n. (-ĭt, -āt')
A person united with another or others in an act, enterprise, or business; a partner or colleague.
A companion; a comrade.
One that habitually accompanies or is associated with another; an attendant circumstance.
A member of an institution or society who is granted only partial status or privileges.
often Associate An associate's degree.
You could also use Legal Affiliates
WordNet - Cite This Source affiliate
noun
1. a subordinate or subsidiary associate; a person who is affiliated with another or with an organization
2. a subsidiary or subordinate organization that is affiliated with another organization; "network affiliates"
verb
1. join in an affiliation; "They affiliated themselves with the organization"
2. keep company with; hang out with; "He associates with strange people"; "She affiliates with her colleagues" [syn: consort]
3. join in an affiliation; "The two colleges affiliated"
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Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source
as·so·ci·ate /v. əˈsoʊʃiˌeɪt, -si-; n., adj., əˈsoʊʃiɪt, -ˌeɪt, -si-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[v. uh-soh-shee-eyt, -see-; n., adj., uh-soh-shee-it, -eyt, -see-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -at·ed, -at·ing, noun, adjective
noun 7. a person who shares actively in anything as a business, enterprise, or undertaking; partner; colleague; fellow worker: He consulted with his associates before proceeding further.
8. a companion or comrade: my most intimate associates.
9. a confederate; an accomplice or ally: criminal associates.
10. anything usually accompanying or associated with another; an accompaniment or concomitant.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source as·so·ci·ate (ə-sō'shē-āt', -sē-) Pronunciation Key
v. as·so·ci·at·ed, as·so·ci·at·ing, as·so·ci·ates
adj. (-ĭt, -āt')
Joined with another or others and having equal or nearly equal status: an associate editor.
Having partial status or privileges: an associate member of the club.
Following or accompanying; concomitant.
[Middle English associaten, from Latin associāre, associāt- : ad-, ad- + socius, companion; see sekw-1 in Indo-European roots.]
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Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
WordNet - Cite This Source associated
adjective
1. related to or accompanying; "Christmas and associated festivities"
2. joined in some kind of relationship (as a colleague or ally or companion etc.); "a cabal of associated lawyers"
n. (-ĭt, -āt')
A person united with another or others in an act, enterprise, or business; a partner or colleague.
A companion; a comrade.
One that habitually accompanies or is associated with another; an attendant circumstance.
A member of an institution or society who is granted only partial status or privileges.
often Associate An associate's degree.
Peer comment(s):
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Manuela Parisotto
: It doesn't convey the idea of joint liability
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I beg to differ. Legal associates are parties not only related to the Company, but subject to the same responsibilies/liabilities and priviledges thereof
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momo savino
: the "obbligati solidali" are not necessarily affiliates or subordinate or subsidiary associates
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jointlyy responsible
Taken from the business correspondence:
There was only one change, effective 8/12/05. A.R.S. § 32-2328 was added. This new provision states that a business licensee, qualifying party or applicator may be held *jointly responsible* for the acts or omissions of another person who is under their supervision if the supervising licensee fails to properly train, equip or supervise the other person or maintain relevant records.
It seems to be exactly the case.
There was only one change, effective 8/12/05. A.R.S. § 32-2328 was added. This new provision states that a business licensee, qualifying party or applicator may be held *jointly responsible* for the acts or omissions of another person who is under their supervision if the supervising licensee fails to properly train, equip or supervise the other person or maintain relevant records.
It seems to be exactly the case.
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momo savino
: I thank you, especially because I was still sure I was not wrong
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rsponsible
/ those who have a responsibility
solidali = in solido = those who must pay in case of accidents
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responsible
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dal Gran Diccionario Oxford : responsible to sb = responsabile nei cfr di qcuno; they are responsible to the committee = sono responsablili nei cofr del comitato. So I confirm that RESPONSIBLE can be correct in this context.
solidali = in solido = those who must pay in case of accidents
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responsible
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dal Gran Diccionario Oxford : responsible to sb = responsabile nei cfr di qcuno; they are responsible to the committee = sono responsablili nei cofr del comitato. So I confirm that RESPONSIBLE can be correct in this context.
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James (Jim) Davis
: responsibility and liability are not always the same thing in English. The tsumani was responsible for the damage and the insurance company was liable for and paid for the damage. ;-)
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Thank you again
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Gennady Lapardin
: jointly responsible, see my answer
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