Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
temoin de fonctionnement
English translation:
mains OR power OR 'on' indicator
Added to glossary by
Tony M
- The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2010-08-23 15:54:11 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)
Aug 19, 2010 21:14
13 yrs ago
French term
temoin de fonctionnement
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Mechanics / Mech Engineering
remote tools
"Caractéristiques
- 1 prise télécommandée 230VAC-50Hz
- Puissance maxi : 1000W
- 1 télécommande 16 canaux
- Portée en champ libre : 120 m
- Témoin de fonctionnement
- Fusible interne de sécurité
- La télécommande fonctionne avec 1 pile 12V de type 23A (fournie)
- Fréquence radio : 433,92MHz
- La prise et la télécommande sont à usage uniquement en intérieur"
not sure what the witness aspect could be in this context??
- 1 prise télécommandée 230VAC-50Hz
- Puissance maxi : 1000W
- 1 télécommande 16 canaux
- Portée en champ libre : 120 m
- Témoin de fonctionnement
- Fusible interne de sécurité
- La télécommande fonctionne avec 1 pile 12V de type 23A (fournie)
- Fréquence radio : 433,92MHz
- La prise et la télécommande sont à usage uniquement en intérieur"
not sure what the witness aspect could be in this context??
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +3 | mains OR power on indicator | Tony M |
3 +3 | indicator light | Travelin Ann |
4 | activity LED | Jennifer Levey |
3 | operation indication | meirs |
3 -1 | operational tell-tale | Callum Walker |
Change log
Aug 23, 2010 16:08: Tony M changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/0">'s</a> old entry - "temoin de fonctionnement"" to ""mains OR power on indicator""
Proposed translations
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16 mins
Selected
mains OR power on indicator
As Ann says, 'indicator' is the word needed for 'temoin' here (also often found as 'voyant') — however, calling it a 'light' is rather layman's language, and if you look for the equivalent in EN texts, you'll usually find that the 'indicator' is qualified in some other way: 'mains indicator', 'power on indicator', etc. — in most cases, if it is intended to indicate that the unit is working, then it will indeed simply indicate that the power is on. I feel pretty sure this would be the case here, in this relatively basic context.
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Of course, in your context of remote-controlled sockets, that's why you need an indicator — and it will indeed be a 'mains on' indicator!
The problem with this type of socket is that you have no way of knowing if the power is on or off (unless you can tell from soemthing that is plugged in to it!) — and someone might come along and remotely turn it on just as you were sticking your fingers in the socket... So it's quite important to be able to tell when the mains voltage is present or not.
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I guess perhaps for the US something like 'power indicator' might be OK? The 'on' is rather redundant, since it is unusual (not to say technically tiresome) to produce a special indicator just to show when the power is 'off'.
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Of course, in your context of remote-controlled sockets, that's why you need an indicator — and it will indeed be a 'mains on' indicator!
The problem with this type of socket is that you have no way of knowing if the power is on or off (unless you can tell from soemthing that is plugged in to it!) — and someone might come along and remotely turn it on just as you were sticking your fingers in the socket... So it's quite important to be able to tell when the mains voltage is present or not.
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I guess perhaps for the US something like 'power indicator' might be OK? The 'on' is rather redundant, since it is unusual (not to say technically tiresome) to produce a special indicator just to show when the power is 'off'.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
mhanbury
: what about ON/OFF indicator?
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Thanks! Yes, you're right, though being a pedant, I'd say that it can only indicate when it is 'on', and not indicate when it is 'off' ;-)
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Travelin Ann
: I like this, with the proviso mentioned in my discussion entry. US tends to speak of "water mains" but not for electrical power.// Love it when we can communicate in spite of our common language ;)//My new telly has a red standby indicator, w/green for on
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Thanks, Ann! In my Euro-centric way, I'd sort of assumed it had to be this side of the Pond — and indeed yes, doesn't do to mix water and electricity, now does it?! ;-) / Yup, mine too!
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Jennifer Levey
: I don't read this as a 'power' indicator - rather as a 'working' indicator.
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Sure — but in the context of a simple remote-controlled socket, 'working' simply means that 'the power is on'...
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chris collister
: I like the idea simply of "ON indicator".
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Thanks, Chris! Yes, probably all that is needed here, eh?
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1 min
operational tell-tale
This would be a light which tells you whether the device is working or not (or working properly or not).
Translation taken from Termium Plus.
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Definition: "Informe le conducteur qu'un dispositif a été mis en action et qu'il fonctionne correctement." (this is obviously in the context of a car/vehicle - but applies to most electronics).
Translation taken from Termium Plus.
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Definition: "Informe le conducteur qu'un dispositif a été mis en action et qu'il fonctionne correctement." (this is obviously in the context of a car/vehicle - but applies to most electronics).
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Tony M
: Although the idea is right, I'm afraid this just wouldn't be normal technical terminology. And a 'tell-tale' is often used to refer to other (non-electronic) things...
15 mins
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I have seen this used for electronic products on numerous occasions, in car manuals among other places, to refer to dashboard lights. But I'll happily admit that this is not my area of expertise.
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4 mins
indicator light
something that gives you feedback that it is working
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http://raywinstead.com/nintendods.shtml
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"In-use indicator" - the example happens to be a light, but the name describes the function in a more generic fashion.
http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20060723/in-use-indicator/
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http://raywinstead.com/nintendods.shtml
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"In-use indicator" - the example happens to be a light, but the name describes the function in a more generic fashion.
http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20060723/in-use-indicator/
24 mins
operation indication
I chose indication purpose (not indicator) - to express what benefit the user gets rather than what device the kit has. Temoin is actually "feedback" IMHO (like DE Rueckmeldung)
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Tony M
: But here they are using 'témoin' as a noun, and it simply means 'indicator', not 'the action of indicating' — that way, it fits better into the list of other features. Besides, ..-tion ...-tion is so ugly!
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Wahtever - we are wasting too much energy (splitting hairs) - considering that the intended audience is not "rocket scientists"
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Jennifer Levey
: This is 'patent-speak', quite unsuitable for the spec of a commercial product that has to be intelligible to the common (wo)man.
2 hrs
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3 hrs
activity LED
My guess is as good as anyone's here :)
It's similar to that flashing wot-not on your PC that flashes to tell you the hard disc is working, not the static wot-not that tells you the thing is switched on.
Of course, the 'témoin' might not be a LED - but if it ain't then I'll eat my hat!
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It's similar to that flashing wot-not on your PC that flashes to tell you the hard disc is working, not the static wot-not that tells you the thing is switched on.
Of course, the 'témoin' might not be a LED - but if it ain't then I'll eat my hat!
Ethernet activity LED - [ Traducir esta página ]
The Ethernet activity LED indicates that the SAN Volume Controller 2145-8G4 is communicating with the Ethernet network that is connected to the Ethernet ...
publib.boulder.ibm.com/.../svc_8g4etheractled_37prgw.html - En cachéOn Screen Hard Drive Activity LED | PCMech - [ Traducir esta página ]
20 Nov 2009 ... You are probably very familiar with the hard drive activity LED that seems to constantly be blinking on either your desktop or laptop case.
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Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Yes, but haven't you actually seen one of these r/c socket things? It's dead basic, and the light just tells you it's on (even if it might additionally flash during reception of a command)
5 hrs
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Discussion
How about "status indicator"?
I am familiar with the term 'tell-tale' particularly for indicating something that you couldn't otherwise know — the classic one being the 'fuse blown' indicators used on some equipment; if there wasn't a tell-tale indicator, then it wouldn't be easy to know... I've also encountered the term used to refer to something that may betray a past condition: for example, that a piece of delicate equipment has been subjected to excessive shock or temperature; even though that condition may have now been eliminated, the tell-tale 'spills the beans': "I've been dropped!"
Tony M's suggestion of mains indicator is completely accurate, but would not be widely understood in the US, for example.
Normally, with a 230V AC designation, I would not offer a US EN option, since we use 110/120 for most things. But, some major electrical items do run on 220/230 in the US.