Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
niches en fissure à double ébrasement
English translation:
narrow, deep, splayed niches
Added to glossary by
Christopher Crockett
Jan 30, 2008 04:02
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niches en fissure à double ébrasement
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Description Of Charlemagne's Hunting Lodge
Contexte:
"Nous sommes obligés d'attibruer la construction de ce monument à des artisans venus de l'antique province de Syria pour les raisons suivantes: l'emploi de solutions géométriques complexes, le fait qu'on n'a pas utilisé de cintres dans la construction de la coupole, l'origine moyenne-orientale des **niches en fissure à double ébrasement,** la configuration singulière du circuit des quatres absides plus larges qu'un demi-cercle, avec des calottes par conséquent supérieures à un quart de cercle et qui comprennent donc la clé de voûte en entier (caractéristique typique aussi des absides de San claudio et de celles palestiniennes de Khirbet al Mafjar)."
Merci beaucoup!
femme
"Nous sommes obligés d'attibruer la construction de ce monument à des artisans venus de l'antique province de Syria pour les raisons suivantes: l'emploi de solutions géométriques complexes, le fait qu'on n'a pas utilisé de cintres dans la construction de la coupole, l'origine moyenne-orientale des **niches en fissure à double ébrasement,** la configuration singulière du circuit des quatres absides plus larges qu'un demi-cercle, avec des calottes par conséquent supérieures à un quart de cercle et qui comprennent donc la clé de voûte en entier (caractéristique typique aussi des absides de San claudio et de celles palestiniennes de Khirbet al Mafjar)."
Merci beaucoup!
femme
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +1 | narrow, deep, splayed niches |
Christopher Crockett
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| 4 +1 | double splay split-niches |
Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
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| 1 +1 | comment |
Bourth (X)
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Change log
Feb 11, 2008 14:36: Christopher Crockett Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Christopher Crockett
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narrow, deep, splayed niches
I'm just following Bourth's lead ("en fissure" = narrow, almost like a crack).
I've seen windows which are narrow and set within deeply splayed embrasures (in Armenian buildings, for example), but I still can't picture what these "niches" look like in the context of the building.
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Note added at 10 hrs (2008-01-30 14:09:19 GMT)
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Only one good hit on "splayed niche":
"South wall: two splayed widows, the dressings unpainted. Between them a splayed niche which must have been a slit window though it is now blocked, and there is a second at a higher level, also blocked, near the east end of the nave wall. Another functioning splayed window provides light for the gallery stairs."
http://www.cpat.demon.co.uk/projects/longer/churches/conwy/1...
Now, *that* I can picture (though there's no picture on the site).
I've seen windows which are narrow and set within deeply splayed embrasures (in Armenian buildings, for example), but I still can't picture what these "niches" look like in the context of the building.
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Note added at 10 hrs (2008-01-30 14:09:19 GMT)
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Only one good hit on "splayed niche":
"South wall: two splayed widows, the dressings unpainted. Between them a splayed niche which must have been a slit window though it is now blocked, and there is a second at a higher level, also blocked, near the east end of the nave wall. Another functioning splayed window provides light for the gallery stairs."
http://www.cpat.demon.co.uk/projects/longer/churches/conwy/1...
Now, *that* I can picture (though there's no picture on the site).
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
: I think they are the stones they used to shoot arrows from
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No, actually these deep, very narrow windows are frequently found in very "bright" latitudes. It was also a question of Security --too narrow for anyone to sneak through. Lots of theft, en ces temps la. Thanks, Mary Carol.
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Merci."
+1
4 hrs
Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
Italy
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Italy
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17
double splay split-niches
ébrasement=splay
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Christopher Crockett
: It would seem so, but I have no idea what these "split-niches" might look like. I have about come to the conclusion, with Femme's questions, that translating a descriptive text without actually seeing the building is neigh on to impossible.
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are you proposing a field trip?
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comment
My dictionaries tell me that niches are "often semicircular in plan".
"Ebrasement", said of windows, refers to splayed reveals (the surface otherwise perpendicular to the wall where the wall ends to leave space for a window). I don't see the point of "double" since it would be both normal, logical, and aesthetically most pleasing to have splays on each side of a window or other opening.
From "à fissure" I deduce that this particular type of niche is deep and, relative to either its own depth or other types of niches, narrow, resembling a (rather wide!) crack.
Now, assuming the niche still has its semicircular plan, it could be made to be deep and "narrow" by placing the traditional semicircular part at the end of a splayed "entrance" section.
This would amount to a "splayed deep niche" or "deep niche with splayed opening", or something along those lines.
Pure guesswork, mind you.
"Ebrasement", said of windows, refers to splayed reveals (the surface otherwise perpendicular to the wall where the wall ends to leave space for a window). I don't see the point of "double" since it would be both normal, logical, and aesthetically most pleasing to have splays on each side of a window or other opening.
From "à fissure" I deduce that this particular type of niche is deep and, relative to either its own depth or other types of niches, narrow, resembling a (rather wide!) crack.
Now, assuming the niche still has its semicircular plan, it could be made to be deep and "narrow" by placing the traditional semicircular part at the end of a splayed "entrance" section.
This would amount to a "splayed deep niche" or "deep niche with splayed opening", or something along those lines.
Pure guesswork, mind you.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Christopher Crockett
: Yes, I think you've got a loose grip on a greasy pole on a slippery slope towards the answer there.
6 mins
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Discussion
"Double framed cracked niches", which gets no ghits at all
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