Jun 4, 2004 15:34
19 yrs ago
English term

"London"

Non-PRO English to Japanese Other Geography
City of London
Capital of England

Proposed translations

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11 mins
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ロンドン、倫敦

Both are Japanese for "London".
As you see it is expressed in two different writing systems -- the former is katakana, the latter Kanji. The katakana is used far more often than the Kanji, but both are OK.
Peer comment(s):

agree Yuriko Daikoku : No choice other than ロンドン. 倫敦 will not be used unless it is an old literature. I vote for Susan as she has pointed out the old Kanji signage but do not use it, unless you have a reason to use the Kanji signage.
19 hrs
agree Rajiv Arora
30 days
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11 hrs

ロンドン(市) イギリスの首都

ロンドン(市) イギリスの首都

If you are asking for both "London" and "capital of England", this is the answer.

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Note added at 2004-06-05 10:35:59 (GMT)
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or, combine the two, イギリスの首都ロンドン
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15 mins
English term (edited): London

ロンドン

In Japanese, the name of London is pronounced very close to the original English, while everyone knows the general Japanese speakers are more or less struggling with the pronunciation of the "l" sound.

If you specifically would like to stress "City of London", you would add the translation of "City", which is 市 in Japanese, to the back of the translation of "London", which is ロンドン.


"Capital of London" may be close to "首都ロンドン", which is a combination of "capital" and "London". You would say that way in Japanese, with no problem.

If London should be put in kanji (which is very rare), 倫敦 would be used. (I picked it up from a website relating to Soseki Natsume. You may imagine the chronology.)
http://www3.airnet.ne.jp/admhiro/soseki-museum/j-menu.html

BTW I know there is another London in Ontario, Canada. Why's that?

HTH

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Note added at 16 mins (2004-06-04 15:51:24 GMT)
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Correction in the second paragraph above:
ロンドン → ロンドン市


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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs 7 mins (2004-06-06 03:42:17 GMT)
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FYI:In most cases, you would say just ロンドン in Japanese to refer to City of London, anyway. My other pick-ups are minor variations if considering the popularity, leaving 倫敦 almost as an archaic way of noting the name. An archaic way of writing is same as パリ as 巴里, サンフランシスコ as 桑港, ベルリン as 伯林, etc. My guess is that these systems are mostly used in public, historical or even literary documents or works in early ages just after Japan firstly contacted the western world including North America. (I don¥'t know when it first appeared, though.) I soon think of one possible exception to that, which is the movie title ¥"The Spirit Of St.Louis¥" featuring Charles Lindbergh¥'s first flight across the Atlantic ocean from Long Island to Paris, which is ¥"翼よ!あれが巴里の灯だ¥" starring James Stewart. There the name of Paris appears as 巴里, the writing of which must be widely recognized among Japanese movie fans.
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/wilder/blvd/spirit.htm
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