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Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

bokken

English translation:

cradles

Added to glossary by Patrick John Burhorn
Jan 4, 2016 13:23
8 yrs ago
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Dutch term

bokken

Dutch to English Tech/Engineering Ships, Sailing, Maritime Marina/Boat storage
Dear colleagues,

Today I need you help regarding the term "bokken" in the very last sentence of the following text passage.

Winterstalling bij Nauticadam, Jachthaven/Werf Twellegea

Nauticadam heeft meer dan 40 jaar ervaring met het plaatsen van boten op de wal.
Tevens kunt u hier één van onze havens vinden, Jachthaven Twellegea met ruim 70 ligplaatsen. De haven en werf bevinden zich in het pittoreske Nieuwendam, Amsterdam Noord. Deze locatie ligt slechts op 15 minuten rijden van het centraal station, is perfect bereikbaar met het openbaar vervoer en biedt gratis parkeergelegenheid.

U kunt uw boot in het water laten liggen, stallen op ons afgesloten buitenterrein, of u kiest voor de overdekte winterstalling. Uw sloep, boot, zeil- of motorjacht staat daar veilig en droog. Met onze portaalkraan zetten wij probleemloos boten van maximaal 30 ton op de wal. Ook zijn er stabiele bokken die exact op maat van de boot kunnen worden afgesteld.

Thank you in advance for your input/translation suggestions (preferably English UK) and HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Proposed translations (English)
3 +6 cradles
4 +4 boat stands
3 +2 trestle stands
4 trestles

Discussion

Patrick John Burhorn (asker) Jan 5, 2016:
@ all Thanks a million for your input, remarks and translation suggestions!
freekfluweel Jan 5, 2016:
http://yachtlegs.co.uk/index.pl
Barend van Zadelhoff Jan 4, 2016:
Lianne, Ik wou er nog aan toevoegen:

"Ook zijn er stabiele bokken die exact op maat van de boot kunnen worden afgesteld."

Waar staat hier dat alle boten in een bok worden gestald?

Er staat slechts "Ook zijn er stabiele bokken..."
Barend van Zadelhoff Jan 4, 2016:
Nou, Lianne Die blokken zijn gestapeld op een dwarsbalk van een bok voor verdere verdeling van de belasting, om de druk over meer punten te verdelen.

Ander punt is dat 'bok', voor mij, klinkt als 'cradle'.
Lianne van de Ven Jan 4, 2016:
Cradle versus boat stand Die linkerboot ligt wel in een "cradle" maar die rechterboot ligt op een stapel blokken. Ik zou daarom juist niet suggereren dat alle boten in een cradle worden gestald.
Michael Beijer Jan 4, 2016:
@Evgeny + Barend: Yeah, I agree. I think Evgeny should enter "cradles" (or "cradle (boat) stands") as his answer (as he mentioned it first). He'd get my Agree.
Barend van Zadelhoff Jan 4, 2016:
Here you can see what these 'bokken' are about This is the company of Patrick's questions.

Please look at the shifting images at the top of the page.
I think 'cradle' would be the best name for these 'bokken', something that was suggested already at one of the previous questions.

http://nauticadam.nl/winterstalling/
Michael Beijer Jan 4, 2016:
cradles bootbok: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bootbok&source=lnms&tbm=is...
boat cradle: https://www.google.co.uk/search?biw=1280&bih=717&tbm=isch&sa...
Michael Beijer Jan 4, 2016:
@Evgeny: I suppose it will also depend on the size of the boats that are being propped up.
Michael Beijer Jan 4, 2016:
I think "bokken" are these things: http://www.bootbokken.nl/attachments/Image/aegir.JPG (i.e., the draaggestel that a boat can be rested on)
Evgeny Artemov (X) Jan 4, 2016:
Sounds like 'keel-blocks' Alternatively: skids; docking blocks; keel block; keelblock; middle blocks; cradles (the last one is mostly for yachts and yacht trailers).
Patrick John Burhorn (asker) Jan 4, 2016:
@ writeaway I need it for the combination NL-EN (UK)!
writeaway Jan 4, 2016:
Have you checked Van Dale Either Nl-En oder Nl-De?

Proposed translations

+6
3 hrs
Selected

cradles

At Mike's and Barend's suggestion. Thanks, pals.
Peer comment(s):
agree Barend van Zadelhoff : I would go for this.
9 mins
Thank you Barend! :-)
agree Michael Beijer : :) / also nice that someone with actual UK experience (WiardS) has corroborated this
18 mins
Thank you Mike! :-)
agree LouisV (X)
4 hrs
Thank you Louis!
agree Wiard Sterk : My boat is lifted into a cradle every winter.
17 hrs
Thank you Wiard!
agree Kitty Brussaard : On the basis of 'voortschrijdend inzicht', I now think this is indeed the best answer (assuming 'bokken' is used here in the true sense of the word (EN cradles) and does not comprise 'bootsteunen' (EN boat stands / yacht legs) as well.
20 hrs
Thank you Kitty!
agree Lianne van de Ven : Voor EN-UK, yes
22 hrs
Thank you Lianne!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you very much for your help!"
+4
53 mins

boat stands

This would do in US EN.
There are all kinds of boat stands, sailboats, motor boats, small, large....

Google images:
https://goo.gl/xMhvUv

Professionals use boat stands:
http://boatstands.com/

BOOTBOKKEN.NL levert een compleet programma in bootstalling- en showroombokken.
http://www.bootbokken.nl/
Peer comment(s):
agree Michael Beijer : nice and general (and probably the safest option, as it can't really be wrong )
9 mins
agree Evgeny Artemov (X)
10 mins
agree Ripsime Bailleux (X)
22 mins
agree Kitty Brussaard : Agree with Michael, boat stands is probably the safest option here. / Or would these rather be known as 'bootsteunen' in NL? // As far as I can see, 'bokken' are single/integrated support frames vs 'boat stands' used as multiple standalone items.
36 mins
Ik zie dezelfde resultaten voor bootsteunen als voor bokken. 'Boot op de bok' gaat niet over de technische details, 'cradle' of steun//Bokken en steunen worden hier door elkaar gebruikt: http://www.bootbokken.nl/page11.php
agree David Walker (X)
3 hrs
disagree Wiard Sterk : In the UK we use cradles. Don't think you would get far with 'boat stand' in marinas here.
19 hrs
Well, I do mention that it would do in US EN, but maybe you overlooked that?
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+2
25 mins

trestle stands

see e.g.: http://www.uyc-marine.com/Motor_Boat_Trestle_Stands.htm

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Note added at 26 mins (2016-01-04 13:50:09 GMT)
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Van Dale NL/EN:

bok =
3. draaggestel
(voornamelijk in samenstellingen) horse
rack, frame, trestle

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Note added at 27 mins (2016-01-04 13:51:12 GMT)
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"Motor Boat Trestle Stands

These Trestle Stands are ideal for storing small Motor Boats and Ribs
Incorporating 2 trestle stands (front and rear) with wooden rails bolted to the galvanised stands, this design ensures that the full length of the hull is supported." (http://www.uyc-marine.com/Motor_Boat_Trestle_Stands.htm )

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Note added at 29 mins (2016-01-04 13:52:46 GMT)
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"Boat Trestles – MK1

Following on from my earlier post on constructing simple low “dogs” for rowing shells, this post describes the construction of larger rowing boat trestles. The aim was to create some sturdy trestles to replenish the dwindling collection at the Cantabrigian boat club." (http://www.jwshale.com/2012/08/boat-trestles-mk1/ )(see image!)

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Note added at 1 hr (2016-01-04 14:29:29 GMT)
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or "cradle boat stands", or "cradles"
Peer comment(s):
agree Evgeny Artemov (X)
23 mins
Thanks!
agree Ripsime Bailleux (X)
49 mins
Thanks!
neutral Kitty Brussaard : As far as I can see, the term 'trestles' seems to be used mainly in relation to rowing boats. Your last option (cradles) seems to be more generally applicable.
1 hr
Indeed. I agree: "cradles" or "boat stands" then.
neutral Lianne van de Ven : Eens met Kitty.
1 hr
Yup.
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1 hr

trestles

pretty much same as previous opinions :)
Peer comment(s):
neutral Kitty Brussaard : Mainly used for rowing boats, as far as I can see.
17 mins
neutral Lianne van de Ven : trestles zijn saw horses, hooguit voor kleine bootjes idd.
42 mins
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