Porter dans ses plis

14:58 Oct 15, 2022

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French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - History / Intellectual prooperty

French term or phrase: Porter dans ses plis

From a text about intellectual property:

'Quoi qu'on fasse, on se verra contraint de le reconnaître, la propriété littéraire et artistique *porte dans ses plis* la propriété scientifique : l'une amènera forcément l'autre... Vous vouliez constituer une, deux, trois propriétés au plus, vous en aurez un essaim"

I understand that it basically means 'will bring with it' but I'm looking for a nice illustrative translation and I just can't think of one.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Lorna Coing KudoZ activity Questions: 44 (1 open) (2 without valid answers) (3 closed without grading) Answers: 29 France
Local time: 07:25

Summary of answers provided

3 +2

go hand in hand with

Jennifer Levey

3 +1

extend to

Marco Solinas

be inherent in

Bourth

Carry in its wake

SafeTex

herald

FPC

Discussion entries: 5

Answers

32 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

extend to

Explanation:
Or encompass.

However, I am sure there is a more picturesque term; I just cannot think of it right now. Maybe it will come later. Perhaps "carry in its slipstream"

Marco Solinas
Local time: 22:25
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Italian
PRO pts in category: 8

2 hrs confidence:

be inherent in

Explanation:
inherent in literary and artistic property is scientific property

And in case anyone is asking the same question of themselves as I asked of myself:

"Gardner's Dictionary of Modern Legal Usage states that inherent takes the proposition in, not to. Random House Dictionary uses the following example:
factors inherent in the situation."

Bourth
France
Local time: 07:25
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 7

3 hrs confidence:

Carry in its wake

Explanation:
Hello

I couldn't come up with anything with the word "fold" (plis) but at least this has the word "porter" in it.
And it has the idea of first (art, literature), and second (science) as does "in its wake"

SafeTex
France
Local time: 07:25
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 3

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

porter dans ses plis go hand in hand with

Explanation:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/go-hand-...
"If something goes hand in hand with something else, it is closely related to it and happens at the same time as it or as a result of it: "

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Note added at 3 hrs (2022-10-15 18:47:47 GMT)
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and hence l'une amènera forcément l'autre - where one hand goes, the other must follow

Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 01:25
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 3

4 hrs confidence:

herald

Explanation:
if I'm not mistaken "porter dans ses plis" literally means bear or show as (or as if) an emblem on banner or coat of arms. That's not the main reason why I propose "herald", though it rings a bell about heraldry, too, but because of the meaning it has of announcing or foreshadowing. It has this connotation, anyway, of showing what will come later almost as a writing on the wall.

FPC
Native speaker of:

Italian

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