Spitze

13:23 Jul 9, 2016

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Tech/Engineering - Food & Drink / Malzherstellung

German term or phrase: Spitze

Mit dem zumeist karbonathaltigen Wasser wurden sie (die Gersten in Deutschland) in einem Dreimaischverfahren aufgeschlossen und ca. drei Stunden mit dem ebenfalls „derben“ Hopfen gekocht.
Dem gegenüber waren die englischen, „maritimen“ Gersten deutlich eiweißärmer. Sie wurden auf der Tenne *bis in die Spitzen gelöst* und mit ca. 90°C auf eine mittlere Farbe gedarrt.

Hier geht es um das 17./18. Jahrhundert

gelöst: I suppose this is "modified" here. Not sure what's meant with "Spitzen", "husks" maybe?

TIA

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awn

Johanna Timm, PhD

Discussion entries: 14

Edith Kelly

Switzerland

ASKER

Johanna

16:45 Jul 13, 2016

I always value your input, always extremely well researched. I thinks the confusion arose that here, the "Spitzen" are well modified and not separated off. Ther threshing modifies the properties. Awns cannot be well modified. I hope to count on you in future. Any many thanks for all your valuable research.

Johanna Timm, PhD

Canada

Right, Wendy,

15:57 Jul 13, 2016

I would not have bothered searching high and low had I known that the term you suggested was already perfectly acceptable to the asker!

Wendy Streitparth

Germany

10:49 Jul 13, 2016

So at least I was right with that (tips) then! (see discussion entry from 09.07)

Edith Kelly

Switzerland

ASKER

Thanks Johanna

04:24 Jul 13, 2016

and all contributors. They are the tips and not the awns.

Cilian O'Tuama

Germany

Is it good or bad here for Gerste to be eiweißarm?

00:31 Jul 10, 2016

Or is my Q irrelevant?

Wendy Streitparth

Germany

17:54 Jul 9, 2016

@ Edith: I wasn't querying whether the grain has to be modified, I just thought it odd that it would happen in the "Tenne". But how come you deserve 35°? Its been nothing like that here.

Edith Kelly

Switzerland

ASKER

Wendy

15:00 Jul 9, 2016

the malt has to be modified, not doubt about it. Well, to thresh the barley until it is modified, maybe I'm barking up wrong tree, 35°C and relentless sun. I'm fleeing to my a/c office.

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

Tenne...

15:00 Jul 9, 2016

is the threshing floor of a barn..at least here abouts.

Wendy Streitparth

Germany

14:58 Jul 9, 2016

@ Edith: If it were modification, would they do that in the "Tenne?

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

What I see...

14:36 Jul 9, 2016

...is people threshing the barley, beginning with the stem and working their way up to the spike -- threshed from stem to spike --

Edith Kelly

Switzerland

ASKER

Again

14:20 Jul 9, 2016

barley is threshed in order to modify the properties i.e. release e.g. enzymes needed for subsequent malting.

Edith Kelly

Switzerland

ASKER

Thanks Wendy

14:19 Jul 9, 2016

I'm still not convinced about "separate". Look e.g. here:http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022519304...

Wendy Streitparth

Germany

14:01 Jul 9, 2016

... and I imagine the grains are separated "right to the tip".

Damit nun bei Beginn des Proceſses die Gerste bis zum Spitzen der Keime in Schweiſs kommt, dreht man den Apparat so,
http://dingler.culture.hu-berlin.de/article/pj229/ar229084

Wendy Streitparth

Germany

13:57 Jul 9, 2016

I would say "separate" for "lösen".

Grain mill:
A device used to crush grain into small pieces and to separate the grain from the husk.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zPzsAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA128&lp...

Answers

5 hrs confidence:

awn

Explanation:
Granne
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granne
Die an den Blumenspelzen befindlichen langen Grannen brechen beim Dreschen nicht in gleicher Kürze ab und lösen sich erst nach mehrmaligem Umstechen des Vorrathaufens;
https://goo.gl/l4LD0S
„Wenn diesel (Gerste) nicht vollkommen reif geworden ist, so brechen ihre Grannen in einer zu großen Entfernung vom Korne selbst ab, wenn sie in der Maschine gedroschen wird, und diese Spitzen müssen natürlich weggeschafft werden..es sind daher zu diesem Zwecke eigene Putzwerke, Gerstenputzer (hummeler) ausgedacht worden…“
https://goo.gl/nZOJRH
Granne=awn
https://goo.gl/IBbUwg
https://goo.gl/oGH7V1

Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Local time: 20:52
Native speaker of:

German
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