kök muris

English translation: original heir

10:40 Apr 11, 2016
Turkish to English translations [PRO]
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Turkish term or phrase: kök muris
"kök muris"in ingilizce karşılığı nedir?

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filiz oz
Türkiye
Local time: 10:58
English translation:original heir
Explanation:
Primary heir does not get at the sense of the person being the "root" heir...

Original heir is used widely...as the person from which the chain of inheritance begins; the person could be dead or alive.

See references: https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=heir of origin&...


Also see use here in these items on the same search page:

Family Law in the Czech Republic - Page 203 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=904113784X
Milana Hrušáková, ‎Lenka Westphalova - 2011 - ‎Law
The substitute heir assumes the place of the original heir to the extent of his/her original share. In his/her will the testator, however, may not designate another ...
How is heired property handle once an original heir ...
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Harold Lemel
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Local time: 02:58
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4 +1original testator
Tim Drayton
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Harold Lemel


  

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original heir


Explanation:
Primary heir does not get at the sense of the person being the "root" heir...

Original heir is used widely...as the person from which the chain of inheritance begins; the person could be dead or alive.

See references: https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=heir of origin&...


Also see use here in these items on the same search page:

Family Law in the Czech Republic - Page 203 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=904113784X
Milana Hrušáková, ‎Lenka Westphalova - 2011 - ‎Law
The substitute heir assumes the place of the original heir to the extent of his/her original share. In his/her will the testator, however, may not designate another ...
How is heired property handle once an original heir ...
www.justanswer.com › Legal Advice › Estate Law
Question - How is heired property handle once an original heir ... - 6M. Find the answer to this and other Estate Law questions on JustAnswer.



Harold Lemel
United States
Local time: 02:58
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original testator


Explanation:
First of all, let's be careful because the muris is the miras bırakan, the person who bequeaths. I have said this before, but the terms testator/testatee or legator/legatee are problematic as translations for the parties to inheritance in Turkish law because the English terms imply the existence of a will, while in Turkish law inheritance operates automatically under the Civil Code. We really a word like the German Erblasser but it doesn't exist.

The situation is for example that where one of the deceased's children has died before the deceased and the inheritance that would have gone to his/her child goes directly to that child's children, via the child, with the deceased grandparent being the kök muris.

The use of 'original testator' in the following Canadian court decision is used in this meaning, so I would propose it as the solution:

"So far as the capital of the estate is concerned, its division presents no difficulty. The whole controversy relates to the payments of income. There are now really only two contestants in relation to that income and they are both before the Court. On the one hand are the Camerons (the appellants), who take through the will of the father of the grandchild. On the other hand are those (respondents) who take under the will of Lucy Roberson, an unmarried daughter of the original testator Edward Roberson, who did not die until 1934. Her mother, the widow of the original testator, had died in 1909."

http://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/6677/index....


Tim Drayton
Cyprus
Local time: 10:58
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Notes to answerer
Asker: thanks Tim. I am still confused abaout the translation of "muris". One of your translation about "muris" is "legator" I am still thinking which is the best answer. Thank you :)


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