Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
Presbiterio
English translation:
(a leader of a local) parish
Added to glossary by
Jenni Lukac (X)
Oct 4, 2012 00:01
11 yrs ago
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Spanish term
United States
Getting the meaning across.
Native in: English 
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Presbiterio
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History
Family history
"... siempre se contó entre los principales del *Presbiterio* de su primitiva denominación."
This individual was a a faithful Presbyterian, lapsed, and then returned to his original denomination. The above was said of him after he returned to his faith.
He lived in New Jersey and Pennsylvania; the time period is the early-mid-1800's.
The family history was written in Chile, and my default assumption is that Chilean idioms and usages will be the norm.
I am inclined to translate "Presbiterio" (which is capitalized in the original) as "local congregation," since family readers would know that his "primitiva denominación" was Presbyterianism. An alternative is "presbytery" or "board of presbyters," but that doesn't seem to fit a reference to a whole denomination!
Any thoughts? Especially, if I may, from those familiar with Presbyterian terminology and/or Chilean Spanish?
This individual was a a faithful Presbyterian, lapsed, and then returned to his original denomination. The above was said of him after he returned to his faith.
He lived in New Jersey and Pennsylvania; the time period is the early-mid-1800's.
The family history was written in Chile, and my default assumption is that Chilean idioms and usages will be the norm.
I am inclined to translate "Presbiterio" (which is capitalized in the original) as "local congregation," since family readers would know that his "primitiva denominación" was Presbyterianism. An alternative is "presbytery" or "board of presbyters," but that doesn't seem to fit a reference to a whole denomination!
Any thoughts? Especially, if I may, from those familiar with Presbyterian terminology and/or Chilean Spanish?
Proposed translations
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| 4 | (a leader of a local) parish |
Jenni Lukac (X)
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| 4 +1 | Presbytery |
Teressa Weaver
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Change log
Oct 14, 2012 08:39: Jenni Lukac (X) Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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(a leader of a local) parish
This might work for you - the article "a" adjusted to suit the context.
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Comment: "Jenni, you and my sister helped the most, but thanks to everyone for your input. I've decided on "a principal lay leader in his original denomination.""
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Presbytery
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He was always among the leaders of the Presbytery of his primitive denomination.
The Presbytery is composed of leaders from several congregations. http://oga.pcusa.org/section/departments/mid-councils/links/
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Note added at 13 hrs (2012-10-04 13:30:56 GMT)
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"primitiva" can mean original also. And that makes a lot more sense. http://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=prim...
The Presbytery is composed of leaders from several congregations. http://oga.pcusa.org/section/departments/mid-councils/links/
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Note added at 13 hrs (2012-10-04 13:30:56 GMT)
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"primitiva" can mean original also. And that makes a lot more sense. http://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=prim...
Example sentence:
There are two other presbyteries in Oklahoma: Eastern Oklahoma and Cimarron. Indian Nations Presbytery works with the Synod of the Sun in the Presbyterian Church (USA).
The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has over 11,000 congregations which are organized into 173 presbyteries (district governing bodies) and 16 synods (regional governing bodies).
Peer comment(s):
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David Hollywood
: primitive denomination?
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I was unsure about preimitive denomination, also. Perhaps more context would supply the correct translation there.
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Charles Davis
: No initial capital ("presbytery") and as David says, "primitive" is wrong.
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thank you.
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Discussion
My sister, who is Presbyterian, a translator, and like me grew up in So. America, has suggested "one of the local church leaders." I think I'm going to go with that, or something close.
Steve
I think "de su primitiva denominación" simply means that he was a presbyter, a member of his local presbytery, before leaving the Presbyterian church.