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activité lucrative dépendante

English translation: gainful salaried activity

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French term or phrase:activité lucrative dépendante
English translation:gainful salaried activity
Entered by: Jeanne Zang

23:41 Jun 25, 2011
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Law: Taxation & Customs
French term or phrase: activité lucrative dépendante
This is from Swiss French: l’Ordonnance sur la déduction des frais professionnels des personnes exerçant une activité lucrative dépendante en matière d’impôt fédéral direct (RS 642.118.1)
Jeanne Zang
United States
Local time: 00:45
gainful salaried activity
Explanation:
http://www.parlament.ch/f/suche/pages/geschaefte.aspx?gesch_...
As a self-employed person you may exercise either a main activity or a complementary activity (if your main activity is as a salaried employee). ...
business.belgium.be/en/managing_your...up.../main_activity/ -
Gainful salaried activity. Any activity which normally provides an income ... Observance of priority for the Swiss labour market and those of the EU / EFTA ...
www.geneve.ch › ... › All procedures >
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Rosa Paredes
Canada
Local time: 00:45
Grading comment
I think the important point is that the person is not self-employed. Also, lucrative in the US means that it pays a lot of money (as B D Finch pointed out for the UK).
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2lucrative activity subject to (federal income tax)
Jennifer Levey
5gainful salaried activity
Rosa Paredes
4 +1gainful employment
B D Finch
3dependent paid activity
Alain Mouchel


  

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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
lucrative activity subject to (federal income tax)


Explanation:
Ha! - been there, done that... :(

You can read the law here: http://www.admin.ch/ch/f/rs/c642_118_1.html

Unfortunately, unlike a lot of Swiss law, it's not available in English on the admin.ch website.

Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 00:45
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 23

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Red Cat Studios: Same in the UK
8 hrs
neutral  B D Finch: "Lucrative" in UK English would mean that the activity brought in not just some money, but lots of it.
13 hrs
agree  piazza d: or "profitable"
14 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
gainful salaried activity


Explanation:
http://www.parlament.ch/f/suche/pages/geschaefte.aspx?gesch_...
As a self-employed person you may exercise either a main activity or a complementary activity (if your main activity is as a salaried employee). ...
business.belgium.be/en/managing_your...up.../main_activity/ -
Gainful salaried activity. Any activity which normally provides an income ... Observance of priority for the Swiss labour market and those of the EU / EFTA ...
www.geneve.ch › ... › All procedures >

Rosa Paredes
Canada
Local time: 00:45
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
I think the important point is that the person is not self-employed. Also, lucrative in the US means that it pays a lot of money (as B D Finch pointed out for the UK).
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
dependent paid activity


Explanation:
dependent paid activity

(traduction anglaise proposée par le canton de Vaud - cf. lien ci-dessous)


    Reference: http://www.vaud.ch/no_cache/en/our-services/expat-guide/work...
Alain Mouchel
Local time: 06:45
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: Unfortunately, the only source for the expression you suggest is the Vaud one. Not a generally used expression in English, as "dependent" tends to be used in relation to family members, rather than employee status.
6 hrs
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13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
gainful employment


Explanation:
"Gainful employment
15010 Both employed earners and self-employed earners must be in gainful employment.
15011 An employment should be regarded as gainful if a person is
1. engaged in it with a desire, hope and intention of obtaining remuneration or profit in return for services or efforts1 or
2. is in fact paid for the services performed, whether or not there was any desire, hope or intention of obtaining remuneration2.
1 CP 7/49; CP 129/50; 2 R(P) 1/65"





    Reference: http://www.dsdni.gov.uk/dmser_chapter15.doc
B D Finch
France
Local time: 06:45
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 35

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  cc in nyc: http://www.admin.ch/ch/f/rs/642_118_1/a1.html // I'm pretty sure it's "activité [...] dépendante," but I found the reference in 1.2 to "l’employeur" and "un tiers" more telling.
3 hrs
  -> Thanks cc. Interesting link: it almost looks like it should be "dépendentes" to agree with "personnes".
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