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French term or phrase:
les revendications identitaires
English translation:
claims of identity
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Etienne Muylle Wallace
Jan 19, 2011 21:03
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les revendications identitaires
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I am thinking along the lines of 'struggle for identity' - do you think it could be translated like this? Is there a set term in English? I know what it's saying but am struggling to find a lovely buzzword(s) for it!
It is in Chirac's speech on laïcité from Dec 2003:
'Mais le monde change, les frontières s'abaissent, les échanges se multiplient. Dans le même temps, les revendications identitaires ou communautaires s'affirment ou s'exacerbent, au risque, souvent, du repli sur soi, de l'égoïsme, parfois même de l'intolérance.'
Thanks all!! :)
It is in Chirac's speech on laïcité from Dec 2003:
'Mais le monde change, les frontières s'abaissent, les échanges se multiplient. Dans le même temps, les revendications identitaires ou communautaires s'affirment ou s'exacerbent, au risque, souvent, du repli sur soi, de l'égoïsme, parfois même de l'intolérance.'
Thanks all!! :)
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Feb 2, 2011 08:24: Etienne Muylle Wallace Created KOG entry
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Etienne Muylle Wallace
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claims of identity
Many eople, regions nations without a state, like e.g. Catalonia, claim for identity, claim to be respected, accepted as 'different' from the rest of the country.
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of course people and not eople
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of course people and not eople
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liz askew
: Demands for identity [recognition]
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philgoddard
: Don't think it matters much whether you say 'of' or 'for'.
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Ingeborg Gowans (X)
: w/ phil: or struggle for identity
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mimi 254
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cultural particularism gains strength
How is "communautarisme" to be translated?
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Kiwiland Bear
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quest for identity
or maybe "search" but "quest" seems to match the general tone better.
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(claims based on) identity politics
I think the usual term for this in English is "identity politics" - not a struggle *for* identity per se but claims based on one's specific/essential cultural difference.
I'd suggest something like "At the same time, claims based on identity or community politics..."
It might not even be necessary to include "claims", if it seems implied by "politics".
CF. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics
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Nb. I would not say "struggle for identity" because this suggests something analogous to a personal search for identity where the latter is undefined and here it is almost the opposite: a struggle for *recognition* of an already well-defined identity (as whatever specific group).
I'd suggest something like "At the same time, claims based on identity or community politics..."
It might not even be necessary to include "claims", if it seems implied by "politics".
CF. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics
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Nb. I would not say "struggle for identity" because this suggests something analogous to a personal search for identity where the latter is undefined and here it is almost the opposite: a struggle for *recognition* of an already well-defined identity (as whatever specific group).
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Mark Bossanyi
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assertion of identity
It sounds to me as if the intended meaning is along the lines of "communities are increasingly asserting their identity"
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Evans (X)
: or identity assertions", see for instance an excellent reference on 'identity politics': http://www.jstor.org/pss/4413685
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Thank you Gilla
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