Welcher Teufel reitet ihn

English translation: What is he thinking?

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German term or phrase:Welcher Teufel reitet ihn
English translation:What is he thinking?
Entered by: William Swanson

13:54 Jan 17, 2011
German to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Idioms / Maxims / Sayings / From an introduction to a corporate catalogue
German term or phrase: Welcher Teufel reitet ihn
"Da fragt man sich natürlich: Welcher Teufel reitet denn diese Kollegen?"

The company's CEO is lamenting that certain visionaries/leaders in a particular sector are calling for state support of that industry be reduced before rates consumer rates increase and public anger is aroused.
I'm trying to find an acceptable way to say "Welcher Teufel...." in UK English.
"What the devil has gotten into these colleagues" comes to mind, but I wonder if it is (to an English-speaker's ear) stronger than the German.

Any hints?
William Swanson
Germany
Local time: 08:39
What are they thinking?
Explanation:
may be one possibility
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Trudy Peters
United States
Local time: 02:39
Grading comment
Thanks, Trudy.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +8what possesses them/ what gets into them
Ingeborg Gowans (X)
3 +4What are they thinking?
Trudy Peters
4 +2What planet are these people on?
Lancashireman
4What could they possibly be thinking (of)?
Ramey Rieger (X)
3what's the matter with...
transcreator
3what on earth has gotten into them
Thayenga


Discussion entries: 12





  

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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
What are they thinking?


Explanation:
may be one possibility

Trudy Peters
United States
Local time: 02:39
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 27
Grading comment
Thanks, Trudy.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Cetacea
19 mins

agree  Johanna Timm, PhD: as Cetacea has said above, even though the German original mentions the devil, - this phrase, when used and heard by a German native, conveys a "mild" form of upset.
5 hrs

agree  Ryan Saxon Montcalm
7 hrs

agree  Robin Salmon (X)
7 hrs

neutral  Lancashireman: Greetings to Trudy in Ohio, Robin in Bundaberg, Ryan (US-Englisch Muttersprachler), Dr Jo in Vancouver and, of course, the Great White Whale in Lake Zurich.
9 hrs
  -> :-)
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38 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Welcher Teufel reitet denn diese Kollegen?
What planet are these people on?


Explanation:
Needs to go beyond ‘What are they thinking?’, which could be merely a speculative question.

260,000 examples on Google, including these:

What planet are these people on? July 25, 2010
Two recent stories make it still clearer just what an alternate universe those who control financial institutions and governments of the world live in.
http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/what-planet-are-...

What planet are these people on?
Just when you thought you had read all the latest commentary on the horrors of alcohol and how it should be banned and taxed and banned some more before taxing people who even think of a beer we get this :
http://www.waspsnest.com/2010/02/07/what-planet-are-these-pe...

What planet are these people on?
So the Labour government and Lord Mandelson want to give students from poor areas who attend bad comprehensive schools, a head start of two or three grades when applying to University.
http://michaelheaversblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/what-planet-a...


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More examples here: http://tinyurl.com/5rhqoaj

Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:39
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 160

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Textklick: I think the word 'Teufel' suggests that understatement is contraindicated here. Amended: ...'is he on?'
8 hrs
  -> Hello Englishman. // Abbreviated: "What are they on?

agree  Helen Shiner: matches the exasperation in the GER - to my UK-ENG ears. Gotten is out of the question, not said in UK-ENG ever.
9 hrs
  -> Thanks, Helen. I think some of the people dropping in here have not read the question. The reference to 'visionaries' seems to have passed them by.

neutral  Horst Huber (X): See below. "Welcher Teufel reitet ihn": Indeed it sounds quaintly archaic; Kleist might have said it. To come back to it: I might try to keep the horse-and-rider imagery; as for Ingeborg's version -- Ihave heard it said so often ...
12 hrs
  -> H Huber: “In my other life, I am translating from literary Chinese into either English or German. There I would always aim for the most literal version possible…It takes me several attempts; usually the translation becomes … more literal as I go along.”
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
What could they possibly be thinking (of)?


Explanation:
If this is too close to Trudy's, I'll cancel it. I find it very British!

Ramey Rieger (X)
Germany
Local time: 08:39
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 70
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32 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +8
what possesses them/ what gets into them


Explanation:
hard to say what register to choose here. It alludes to "the devil" without really mentioning him..


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Note added at 6 hrs (2011-01-17 20:43:14 GMT)
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better: what has got into them
"gotten" is, strictly speaking not grammatically correct, but has been accepted almost universally[ in North America]

Ingeborg Gowans (X)
Canada
Local time: 03:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 27

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  franglish
2 mins
  -> thanks, franglish

agree  British Diana: Zu viel der Ehre!
15 mins
  -> thanks, Lady Di

agree  Cetacea
57 mins
  -> thanks, Cetacea

agree  Uta Kappler: Like it!
1 hr
  -> thanks, Uta!

agree  Rebecca Garber: past tense, what has gotten into them?
4 hrs
  -> see my note: "got" is correct; thanks, Rebecca

agree  Nicole Backhaus
5 hrs
  -> thanks, Nicole

agree  Horst Huber (X): I get that feeling only too often!
7 hrs
  -> yes, indeed! Thanks, Horst

neutral  Lancashireman: Merrie Olde Englande grüsst Kanada! “What gets into them?” doesn’t work for a UK reader, nor unfortunately does “What has got into them?”. And “What has possessed them?” sounds quaintly archaic. Sorry. AJS
8 hrs

agree  Lonnie Legg: Only, sticking to the query, as posted, it should be "what has got into *him*."
1 day 6 hrs
  -> you are absolutely right, it should be "him"; thanks for pointing that out, Lonnie

neutral  Textklick: With AJS. This is 2011 and I can think of much stronger variations that that I have heard used in business.
1 day 9 hrs

neutral  Helen Shiner: These would be considered very mild-mannered ways of saying this in the UK. As Textklick puts it, a stronger variant might be better, if only to convey the exasperation in the German. New Year greetings to Canada!
3 days 10 hrs
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
what's the matter with...


Explanation:
just a humble suggestion from a non-native... vom teufel geritten is, as some already have mentioned here, rather undramatic and also light-hearted in german, so this simple translation might work as well

transcreator
Germany
Local time: 08:39
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Kari Foster: I might combine it with Thayenga's version: "What on Earth is the matter with those people?"
1 hr
  -> i kind of like the combo you suggested :-)
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18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
what on earth has gotten into them


Explanation:
yet another option

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Note added at 22 hrs (2011-01-18 12:02:47 GMT)
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or what on earth has come over them

Thayenga
Germany
Local time: 08:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Kari Foster: The "what on Earth" part works very well
26 mins
  -> Thank you, Kari. :)

neutral  Helen Shiner: This is US English
2 days 17 hrs
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