Jun 25, 2010 09:58
13 yrs ago
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German term
frühvollendet
German to English
Art/Literary
Poetry & Literature
guide book
This is from a guide book to Prague, in a paragraph describing the construction of the Charles Bridge.
"Zuletzt dürfte auch die kundige Hand Peter Parlers, des **frühvollendeten** schwäbischen Baumeisters des Prager Veitsdoms (Chrám sv. Víta), zum Erfolg beigetragen haben. "
I have found the following definition in Collins, but it doesn't help me work it into the sentence:
"ein Frühvollendeter: a young artist/poet etc whose genius reached its climax early "
I'm thinking something along the lines of prodigy, but I'm not sure if that's quite right. Very grateful for any suggestions!
"Zuletzt dürfte auch die kundige Hand Peter Parlers, des **frühvollendeten** schwäbischen Baumeisters des Prager Veitsdoms (Chrám sv. Víta), zum Erfolg beigetragen haben. "
I have found the following definition in Collins, but it doesn't help me work it into the sentence:
"ein Frühvollendeter: a young artist/poet etc whose genius reached its climax early "
I'm thinking something along the lines of prodigy, but I'm not sure if that's quite right. Very grateful for any suggestions!
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +1 | precocious genius (paraphrasing) it | British Diana |
3 | accomplished | Lioba Multer |
3 | with early claims on perfection | Lioba Multer |
3 -2 | who died prematurely | Anne-Kathrin Zopf (X) |
Proposed translations
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precocious genius (paraphrasing) it
The Swabian architect P.P. was still at the beginning of a career during which he also constructed the Veitsdom, yet the Charles Bridge already shows the genius of this precocious 22-year-old. (or his precocious genius).
For me "prodigy" is too narrow both from the point of view of age (a prodigy is usually a child or even an infant) and 22 is not all that early for the epoche in question, and from the point of view of the subject or skill meant - it is usually used for musical or artistic ability and not for an architect.
Also we do not know whether P:P. was less successful later on in his career, however "frühvollendet" rather implies it. Thus
another possibliity would be to use the expression P.P. showed early promise in....
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Note added at 5 hrs (2010-06-25 15:36:18 GMT)
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Sorry, I didn't mean to write the whole thing in bold type...
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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2010-06-26 12:32:06 GMT)
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http://www.worldwidewords.org/nl/onqv.htm
In the last sentence of Section 6 (Sic) of this newsletter I just received , "precocious" is used in the way I mean(albeit ironically)
For me "prodigy" is too narrow both from the point of view of age (a prodigy is usually a child or even an infant) and 22 is not all that early for the epoche in question, and from the point of view of the subject or skill meant - it is usually used for musical or artistic ability and not for an architect.
Also we do not know whether P:P. was less successful later on in his career, however "frühvollendet" rather implies it. Thus
another possibliity would be to use the expression P.P. showed early promise in....
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Note added at 5 hrs (2010-06-25 15:36:18 GMT)
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Sorry, I didn't mean to write the whole thing in bold type...
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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2010-06-26 12:32:06 GMT)
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http://www.worldwidewords.org/nl/onqv.htm
In the last sentence of Section 6 (Sic) of this newsletter I just received , "precocious" is used in the way I mean(albeit ironically)
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you Diana."
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who died prematurely
The word means that he died prematurely and thus entered heaven early, was kind of "made complete" early. That is at least the usual Christian meaning. I am not totally sure it helps you here. In your place, I would check how long he lived...
Peer comment(s):
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Wendy Streitparth
: He died aged 69
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thanks
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Michael Wetzel
: Duden Universalwörterbuch only gives the meaning in Collins and as Wendy said the artist lived more than 60 years.
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as I said, this is the way we use it. It seems not to be the total meaning of the text given.
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Cilian O'Tuama
: would that not be VERendet?
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Definitely not! Those who enter heaven are without blame, made perfect, and that is "vollendet". If they go there before old age, that is early, that's why we say "frühvollendet".
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214 days
accomplished
Something like this.
524 days
with early claims on perfection
An artist, who reaches perfection in early years.
Discussion
Can you use "prodigy" for an adult who was previously a child prodigy? Does "former prodigy" necessarily have negative connotations?
In terms of the content of the sentence in the context of a guide book: nothing would be lost by simply saying the "gifted" or "genius" or even "renowned". This would probably also be better than any other solution that is less concise than "prodigy".
In that sense, I very much prefer the dictionary definition above, about the early climax of the genius, which retains part of the original meaning.