Sep 23, 2009 11:37
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Dutch term

intoxicatie

Dutch to English Medical Medical (general)
Have a database which uses both 'intoxicatie' and 'vergiftiging' as synonyms. Say 'intoxication' to the layman and they'll think of drunkenness. But is it the preferable term to 'poisoning' in medical science? I want to use one term for this doc; so should it be 'intoxication' or 'poisoning'?
Sample words:
'vergiftigingsgeval'
'intoxicatie met een product'
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Discussion

Oliver Pekelharing (asker) Sep 23, 2009:
OK, ta Lianne. Am leaning heavily towards 'poisoning'.
Lianne van de Ven Sep 23, 2009:
medische context Wat ik zeg is allemaal bedoeld "binnen medische context."
Ook daarbinnen kan iets meer of minder algemeen zijn.
Oliver Pekelharing (asker) Sep 23, 2009:
Poison versus toxic substance Hoi Lianne, ik ben niet op zoek naar de algemeen geaccepteerd woord (uiteraard poisoning), maar de woord die ze zullen gebruiken in wetenschappelijke artikelen enz., bijv. bij de NHS.
Lianne van de Ven Sep 23, 2009:
referentie Olly, ik probeerde met m'n referentie duidelijk te maken dat "poisining" een bredere en algemenere term is dan intoxication. Maar aangezien je vraag "intoxicatie" schrijft vond ik het moeilijk om voor "poisoning" te argumenteren, en daarom heb ik het in de referentie gezet. Ik zou voor poisoning kiezen dus.
Oliver Pekelharing (asker) Sep 23, 2009:
Note to all contributors In case I didn't formulate this question properly, what I want to know is, which term is most commonly used in medical science to describe all instances of poisoning, whether it be by alcohol, drugs, biological compounds, venom, chemical substances, pharmaceutical products, or whatever: poisoning or intoxication?
Dr Lofthouse Sep 23, 2009:
perhaps as a rule of thumb, you could use 'intoxication' for substances that are prescribed by a physician + alcohol, and 'poisoning' for other substances??

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intoxication

normal term to use for drugs or alcohol in UK NHS -

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but really depends on context and extent - the difference is subtle, (as it is for 'drug dependency' and 'drug addiction'),

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'poisoning' would be used if you were seeking to imply the effects caused were severe/ life threatening

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eg. ICD diagnostic criteria for Psychiatric disorders like Schizophrenia state that symptoms (eg hallucinations, delusions) must be present 'in the absence of drug intoxication or withdrawal'
Note from asker:
Thank you. The poisons in this case are not only drugs and alcohol, but any substance, product, compound, etc. that can cause poisoning/intoxication symptoms. Is it still 'intoxication' then?
Peer comment(s):

agree Mike Wilkinson : "intoxication" perfectly normal in the medical field
7 mins
agree JAN SNAUWAERT : Jan; don't grasp well why this should be a PRO question
1 hr
agree Kate Hudson (X) : intoxication and poisoning are not necessarily the same - being drunk is being in a state of intoxication - alcohol poisoning can be life threatening
2 hrs
agree André Linsen
2 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Still not sure which is the best answer for my context. The agency medical 'specialist' will decide on it. So the answer with the most agrees wins, for now."
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drug toxicity

Intoxication is an acceptable terminology to use in medical texts. However, as Dr. Lofthouse points out, it all depends on the context.

If suitable for your context I would use:
'vergiftigingsgeval'- toxicity
'intoxicatie met een product' - substance toxicity

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poisoning

Zie m'n referentie:
Poison is the general word: a poison for insects. A toxin is a poison produced by an organism; it is esp. used in medicine in reference to disease-causing bacterial secretions: A toxin produces diphtheria. Venom is esp. used of the poisons secreted by certain animals, usually injected by bite or sting: the venom of a snake. 7. contaminate, pollute, taint.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/poisoning

Poisoning past bij alle (passieve) gevallen van intoxicatie, terwijl intoxication meestal intentie impliceert, dan behalve bij een toxisch virus.
Men heeft het niet over een poisonous virus.
Virus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A virus (from the Latin virus meaning toxin or poison) is a microscopic infectious agent that can reproduce only inside a host cell. ...
Etymology - History - Origins - Microbiology
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus

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Verwar ook niet toxisch en intoxicatie...

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You could say that poisoning is "the event" and intoxication is the "physical state of being poisoned."

As Kate said (I am so free, at my own discretion and without her permission, to use her words in this context): "being drunk is being in a state of intoxication - alcohol poisoning can be life threatening"

Poisoning in medical context:
WHO | Management of Poisoning: A handbook for health care workers
Accidental poisoning. Self-poisoning. Using poison to harm other people. Poison in food or drink. Medical poisoning. Abuse of drugs, chemicals or plants ...
www.who.int/ipcs/...poisons/...of_poisoning/en/index.html

Intoxicatin in medical context:
intoxication - Medical Definition
in·tox·i·ca·tion (ĭn-tŏkˌsĭ-kāˈshən). noun. The pathological state produced by a drug, serum, alcohol, or any toxic substance; poisoning. Acute alcoholism. ...
www.yourdictionary.com/medical/intoxication

Note from asker:
Like I said, I am leaning towards poisoning, but the OED does state quite clearly of intoxication: "1.1 The action of poisoning; administration of poison; killing by poison; the state of being poisoned; an instance of this. Obs. exc. Med."
But I'm less interested in dictionary definitions than in what the doctors and scientists use on the work floor :-).
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Reference comments

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Reference:

poisoning vs intoxication

Poison: 1. a substance with an inherent property that tends to destroy life or impair health.
Intoxication: Poisoning by a drug or toxic substance.

Intoxication heeft meestal een beperktere of specifiekere betekenis dan poisoning.

Synonyms:
1. Poison, toxin, venom are terms for any substance that injures the health or destroys life when absorbed into the system, esp. of a higher animal. Poison is the general word: a poison for insects. A toxin is a poison produced by an organism; it is esp. used in medicine in reference to disease-causing bacterial secretions: A toxin produces diphtheria. Venom is esp. used of the poisons secreted by certain animals, usually injected by bite or sting: the venom of a snake. 7. contaminate, pollute, taint.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/poisoning

Medical Dictionary

Main Entry: in·tox·i·ca·tion
Pronunciation: in-"täk-s&-'kA-sh&n
Function: noun
1 : an abnormal state that is essentially a poisoning and is induced by a chemical agent (as a drug, serum, or toxin) intoxication may occur as an intractable dermatitis> intoxication is ahazard of some occupations> intoxication>
2 : the condition of being drunk : INEBRIATION
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/intoxication

Jouw gevallen:
A case of poisoning
Intoxication with a substance
A poison causes symptoms of poisoning or intoxication.

Vergelijk ook google [medical poisoning] en [medical intoxication]
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