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is ultimately the making of us
English answer:
in the end, makes us into something worthwhile
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is ultimately the making of us
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Burn for God!
The burning bush burned on and was not consumed. That is our role – we burn on and we are not consumed. God wants us to keep on burning, not burn out. He has no use for cinders. Some are consumed by lust, the love of money or power, and it destroys them. They become soulless, empty shells. Some individuals spend their lives dissatisfied; grumbling until grumbling is all that is left of them. They end up as a grumble. The love of God has no parallel with that. It builds up, enriches us and ***is ultimately the making of us***.
The burning bush burned on and was not consumed. That is our role – we burn on and we are not consumed. God wants us to keep on burning, not burn out. He has no use for cinders. Some are consumed by lust, the love of money or power, and it destroys them. They become soulless, empty shells. Some individuals spend their lives dissatisfied; grumbling until grumbling is all that is left of them. They end up as a grumble. The love of God has no parallel with that. It builds up, enriches us and ***is ultimately the making of us***.
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JaneTranslates
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in the end, makes us into something worthwhile
Makes us succeed. If a person is "made," he is successful in life (though definitions of "successful" vary greatly!).
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We love God for himself, not for our own gain; in the end, though, that love makes us into everything that we need to be.
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I often hear comments such as, "Marrying xxx was the making of him" or "Once he got that first good job, he was a made man." Here, of course, the context is spiritual; as I said above, definitions of "successful" vary greatly! Spiritual success, or being "made" spiritually, involves being made/re-made/transformed according to God's purpose. Whether "being made" or being a success in the spiritual realm also includes temporal success is irrelevant.
The love of God does not consume or destroy us; on the contrary, it builds us up, improves us, "makes" us.
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We love God for himself, not for our own gain; in the end, though, that love makes us into everything that we need to be.
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I often hear comments such as, "Marrying xxx was the making of him" or "Once he got that first good job, he was a made man." Here, of course, the context is spiritual; as I said above, definitions of "successful" vary greatly! Spiritual success, or being "made" spiritually, involves being made/re-made/transformed according to God's purpose. Whether "being made" or being a success in the spiritual realm also includes temporal success is irrelevant.
The love of God does not consume or destroy us; on the contrary, it builds us up, improves us, "makes" us.
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makes us full and whole people
If someone faces a difficult challenge or sets out on a difficult adventure one might say "It'll be the making of him", meaning that it will help him become a mature and fully developed person.
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makes us who we are
it makes us who we are as human beings.
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Expialidocio (X)
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Thank you CherryPie.
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B D Finch
: But what about the people who haven't had the experience in question and people who are moral inadequates?// If unclear: absolutely everybody is who they are as a human being at any particular moment. The phrase therefore implies something more.
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Sorry, I don't understand the comment. // The phrase 'who we are as human beings' also implies something more.
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d_vachliot (X)
: Exactly.
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makes us into what we are or shall be
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makes us into what we are meant to be.
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makes us into what we are meant to be.
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it makes us in His image
Do you know the expression "Meet your maker"? It means to die and meet God. The making of us refers to this usage. "We are made in God's image" etc.
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The context is expressly Biblical. If we were to use the same expression in a different context, then "making of us" would be much closer in meaning to the verb "to make it", which means to succeed at a definite goal. When one says "s/he made it" he usually means s/he succeeded in getting what s/she was after. A person who wins the lottery, in contrast, hasn't "made it". S/he "has it made". There's a huge difference. Winning the lottery is totally luck. "Making it" means that work towards a definite goal has paid off.
The meaning of "making of us" is dependent on context. Normally it means success.
"Pietro Vermicoll knew Berlusconi as a young man selling pizza on the streets of Verona. When Pietro later began retailing cellphones, his friendship with Berlusconi was the making of him.'"
However, in the Biblical context that the writer here is addressing and expressing, there is no consideration of earthly gain -- in fact, there is a clear rejection of the pursuit of money and power.
In the Biblical context, the usage plays on the Biblical allusions of Man having been made in God's image. The "making of us" refers to the growth of our moral or spiritual qualities, guided and shaped by God's love into practically translucent harmony with God's will, however that will is interpreted.
I'm sure of this.
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The context is expressly Biblical. If we were to use the same expression in a different context, then "making of us" would be much closer in meaning to the verb "to make it", which means to succeed at a definite goal. When one says "s/he made it" he usually means s/he succeeded in getting what s/she was after. A person who wins the lottery, in contrast, hasn't "made it". S/he "has it made". There's a huge difference. Winning the lottery is totally luck. "Making it" means that work towards a definite goal has paid off.
The meaning of "making of us" is dependent on context. Normally it means success.
"Pietro Vermicoll knew Berlusconi as a young man selling pizza on the streets of Verona. When Pietro later began retailing cellphones, his friendship with Berlusconi was the making of him.'"
However, in the Biblical context that the writer here is addressing and expressing, there is no consideration of earthly gain -- in fact, there is a clear rejection of the pursuit of money and power.
In the Biblical context, the usage plays on the Biblical allusions of Man having been made in God's image. The "making of us" refers to the growth of our moral or spiritual qualities, guided and shaped by God's love into practically translucent harmony with God's will, however that will is interpreted.
I'm sure of this.
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B D Finch
: It does not refer to that usage. Lots of athiests, who abhor religious language, happily use the expression.
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Please note the all-important context.
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d_vachliot (X)
: I totally agree. In this context, it cannot really mean anything else.
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