Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

vinaigre de soja

English translation:

soya vinegar

Added to glossary by Melissa McMahon
Jul 5, 2009 06:41
14 yrs ago
French term

vinaigre de soja

Non-PRO French to English Other Cooking / Culinary Asian product
A magazine-style food book is presenting various menus (no recipes) for different purposes: weightloss, energy, detox etc.

One of the dishes is "Poireaux cuits vapeur et glacés au vinaigre de soja".

I'm having trouble finding any product called "soy vinegar": what comes back when you google this is any number of things flavoured with soy AND vinegar, but not a vinegar product fermented from soy.

I'm wondering whether "vinaigre de soja" is a misnomer for Chinese black rice vinegar (like "pousses de soja" is a misnomer for mung bean sprouts). Anyone know?

Thanks for your help.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +4 soya vinegar
4 +2 Soy Vinegar
References
One ref.
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Jul 5, 2009 20:46: Tony M changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

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Non-PRO (2): writeaway, Helen Shiner

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Proposed translations

+4
11 mins
Selected

soya vinegar

Jas there is apple /Modena /Sherry/raspberry et.vinegars, there ia a soya vinegars (and dozens more).

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Note added at 52 mins (2009-07-05 07:33:23 GMT)
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I did not check any google stuff, but you can find that in any decent 'delikatessen' shop.
Note from asker:
Can you provide any weblinks to pages that show/describe the product?
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : I'd certainly expect 'soya' in the UK, but 'soy' wouldn't surprise me as US usage; I don't think either could actually be said to be categorically 'wrong'
28 mins
thanks Tony
agree Constantinos Faridis (X)
1 hr
thanks
agree Susan Nicholls : have found a few links to the product in French, not English
1 hr
thanks
disagree texasweed : Sorry but "soy" is it
6 hrs
this is US English
agree Jean-Louis S. : "soy" but also "soybean vinegar"
7 hrs
thanks
agree Clément Boully : According to Wikipedia, both Soy and Soya are used. Soy is used in US, Soya in UK.
8 hrs
thanks
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Etienne and everyone else for confirming the existence of this product, the soy/soya distinction is a geographical one I believe. MM"
+2
1 hr

Soy Vinegar

See recipe for making Soy Vinegar sauce at
http://www.bigoven.com/102082-Japanese-Soy-Vinegar-Dressing-...
Peer comment(s):

neutral B D Finch : Your ref. is for a dressing made with soy sauce and **rice vinegar**!
1 hr
agree texasweed : right on and so obvious!
5 hrs
neutral Tony M : As BDF says, your ref., along with all the others I was able to investigate, refers to the combination of soy + vinegar; I was unable to find a single one that unequivocally referred to 'soy vinegar' as an ingredient in its own right. May be mainly US?
6 hrs
agree emiledgar : I have seen and bought Soy vinegar in the US. It's easy to find.
12 hrs
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Reference comments

34 mins
Reference:

One ref.

Here's just one reference that specifically refers to 'soya vinegar' in its own right:

Gourmet Japanese cuisine at buffet prices - Community News
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19 Jan 2006 ... Small limes, a soya vinegar as well as a sweet tomato-sauce based dip ... I preferred them with just a squeeze of lime or the soya vinegar. ...


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Note added at 39 mins (2009-07-05 07:20:43 GMT)
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And here's another source from which you can actually buy it (there are plenty of examples of it used as an ingredient, but you do have to hunt a little bit to weeed them out of the 'noise'):

http://i-mage-e.stores.yahoo.net/orientexpress.html

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Note added at 8 hrs (2009-07-05 14:46:59 GMT)
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Yes, "soybean vinegar" certainly gets more (reliable) hits.

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Note added at 14 hrs (2009-07-05 20:44:49 GMT)
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And although there are 'dark' and 'light' versions of it available (just as for soy sauce), I certainly don't think it is the same thing as 'black rice vinegar'.
Note from asker:
Thank you very much for these refs and comments: as you say, there's so much "noise" when you search for "soy vinegar" and it just wasn't a product I'd ever heard of.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Jean-Louis S. : there are also a few "soybean vinegar" (also used as a lab reagent!!)
6 hrs
Merci, jlsjr !
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