Apr 9, 2009 08:40
15 yrs ago
French term
Caviar de pâtes
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I'm not sure what "caviar de pâtes" can be. Can anybody help? thank you!
Façon risotto
Caviar de pâtes et cèpes sautés au foie gras
Façon risotto
Caviar de pâtes et cèpes sautés au foie gras
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +6 | Pasta Beads / Acomo Pepe | Sarah Wood |
3 +3 | Pasta and sautéed cèpe caviare | B D Finch |
4 | Pepper-corn pasta | Susan Gastaldi |
3 | Pasta Caviar | Colin Morley (X) |
5 -6 | "pate" caviar | Constantinos Faridis (X) |
Proposed translations
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37 mins
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Pasta Beads / Acomo Pepe
I think these are acomo pepe (Italian), which does mean peppercorns as far as I am aware. I would be worried about referring to it as peppercorn pasta though as this may imply a flavour rather than a shape. These are often left in the Italian but are described in English as beads of pasta, pasta beads etc. You might need to work around it depending on your audience.
All the best.
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-04-09 10:09:18 GMT)
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Reference: http://vanessacuisine.canalblog.com/archives/2009/01/11/1204...
"Caviar de pâtes à la truffe (des petites pâtes en forme de sphère servies avec une crème truffée et bien truffée !)"
All the best.
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-04-09 10:09:18 GMT)
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Reference: http://vanessacuisine.canalblog.com/archives/2009/01/11/1204...
"Caviar de pâtes à la truffe (des petites pâtes en forme de sphère servies avec une crème truffée et bien truffée !)"
Peer comment(s):
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Constantinos Faridis (X)
: pasta= spaghetti
17 mins
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Constantinos I'm not sure I understand. Are you suggesting that all Pasta is spaghetti?? Could you please retract your 'disagree'. Thanks.
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writeaway
47 mins
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Many thanks
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John ANTHONY
: Translating menus is a specific skill !!! Why do higher ranked chefs have to use fantasy wording instead of "understandable" language ? Some of the worst are the most expensive...!
1 hr
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True! They can charge more if folks don't know what it is! Although this was fairly well-known as far as I was concerned. Apparently not!
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Lingua 5B
: John and Sarah : they have to develop their own vocabulary / language, just like doctors, lawyers and the other pro's. :=
1 hr
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And we just have to try and keep up! :o)
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Linda Sansome (X)
: Thanks Sarah, for your reply below - had me scratching my head for a moment! t!
3 hrs
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agree |
Cetacea
5 hrs
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agree |
jean-jacques alexandre
: absolutely, my wife who is chef in a gastronomic restaurant serves it everyday, & my good frien J.A. is 100% correct they always come up with off the wall denominations
6 hrs
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agree |
Natalie Koshman
: This option seems the most intelligible. I totally agree that what we are talking about here is a "caviar-like" pasta (little beads).
8 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
4 mins
Pepper-corn pasta
I think these are little pasta pellets (round but otherwise apparently similar to rice in size).
http://www.newitalianrecipes.com/pastas.html
Acini di pepe – Probably the smallest variety of pastina, acini di pepe is tiny, pellet-shaped pasta and is made with wheat flour.
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Found this too on the same site:
Orzo – A tiny pasta shape that resembles large grains of rice.
So you could say "Barley-shaped pasta"
http://www.newitalianrecipes.com/pastas.html
Acini di pepe – Probably the smallest variety of pastina, acini di pepe is tiny, pellet-shaped pasta and is made with wheat flour.
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Note added at 7 mins (2009-04-09 08:48:00 GMT)
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Found this too on the same site:
Orzo – A tiny pasta shape that resembles large grains of rice.
So you could say "Barley-shaped pasta"
Peer comment(s):
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B D Finch
: The Wikipedia entry for acini di pepe says "some pasta makers distinguish pastina as smaller than acini di pepe." There's also a recipe for "frog's eye salad". Yukk
1 hr
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41 mins
Pasta Caviar
Are we back to molecular gastronomy here? That would be making a caviar out of something other than the obvious. I believe that is what this dish is. Bit of a guess, though.
Peer comment(s):
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FIROOZEH FARHANG
3 mins
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disagree |
Constantinos Faridis (X)
: pasta = spaghettis
13 mins
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Hi Constantinos - My answer may not be correct, but spagehetti certainly does not enter the equation!
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John ANTHONY
: Far from certain that this is "right" but definitely disagree with Constantinos: pasta = ANY sort (spaghetti, macaroni, penne, tagliatelle, ...)
50 mins
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-6
1 hr
"pate" caviar
Pâté is kind of like caviar. You always hear about rich people eating it, but it sounds gross and you’re not sure what it actually tastes like or even if it’s any good. Growing up, pâté would often be a special occasion appetizer, laid out with a variety of crudités and accompanied by a kir or rum punch. As a child I would turn my nose up and say, “It’s made out of what? Liver? No thanks.” I was stupid. I didn’t know I was missing out on a truly delicious treat.
There are many varieties of pâté in France. They are usually made from different minced meats (liver is often an ingredient) spices, vegetables and wine and cooked either en croute (in a bread crust), or in a terracotta mold (en terrine) or surrounded by a layer of fat. It usually has a spreadable consistency, though is sometimes more coarse, and is eaten on toasts. You’ll often see it garnished with fruit and/or little cornishons (pickles). When made well, pâté has a rich flavor profile, is perfectly spiced and while it won’t unclog those arteries, it tastes delicious. The French love pâté—so much so you’ll even find pate sandwiches on menus and it will often be served as an appetizer in homes in France. You can also find homemade pâté (my favorite) at local chacutries (specialty meat shops) that are always unique and oh so good.
Some of my favorite French pâtés:
Foie Gras- The superstar of pâtés, this pâté is a specialty of southwestern France and is made from fattened goose livers. It is a French delicacy and can be served in various forms, but always has a rich, buttery and delicate flavor. It may sound unappetizing, but trust me, this stuff is real good. Pair it with champagne or a sweet white wine and you’ll be in heaven.
Rillettes- Traditionally made with pork (though you’ll find rillettes made with other meats as well), rillettes are prepared by cooking the cubed and salted meat in fat and then forming into a paste as it cools. The final product usually has a rich texture and bronze color with a complex flavor profile. It is usually served cold on toast or bread. A great treat.
There are many varieties of pâté in France. They are usually made from different minced meats (liver is often an ingredient) spices, vegetables and wine and cooked either en croute (in a bread crust), or in a terracotta mold (en terrine) or surrounded by a layer of fat. It usually has a spreadable consistency, though is sometimes more coarse, and is eaten on toasts. You’ll often see it garnished with fruit and/or little cornishons (pickles). When made well, pâté has a rich flavor profile, is perfectly spiced and while it won’t unclog those arteries, it tastes delicious. The French love pâté—so much so you’ll even find pate sandwiches on menus and it will often be served as an appetizer in homes in France. You can also find homemade pâté (my favorite) at local chacutries (specialty meat shops) that are always unique and oh so good.
Some of my favorite French pâtés:
Foie Gras- The superstar of pâtés, this pâté is a specialty of southwestern France and is made from fattened goose livers. It is a French delicacy and can be served in various forms, but always has a rich, buttery and delicate flavor. It may sound unappetizing, but trust me, this stuff is real good. Pair it with champagne or a sweet white wine and you’ll be in heaven.
Rillettes- Traditionally made with pork (though you’ll find rillettes made with other meats as well), rillettes are prepared by cooking the cubed and salted meat in fat and then forming into a paste as it cools. The final product usually has a rich texture and bronze color with a complex flavor profile. It is usually served cold on toast or bread. A great treat.
Peer comment(s):
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Sarah Wood
: Incorrect. Some confusion between the words pâte and paté???
8 mins
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disagree |
writeaway
: this is a complete mistranslation of a main term. les pâtes have nothing to do with pâté. and linguistically this proposal is impossible as well
21 mins
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disagree |
John ANTHONY
: You're mistaking "pasta" for "paste" - which is not anyway used to translate "pâté", although it could be...!
32 mins
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disagree |
B D Finch
: As Sarah and writeaway say, this is a total mistranslation. Incidentally, spaghetti is pasta but most pasta is not spaghetti.
33 mins
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neutral |
Jean-Louis S.
: Foie gras is not a pâté...
36 mins
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disagree |
Cetacea
: pâtes and pâté are definitely NOT the same thing. Not to mention that equalling pâté and caviar is, excuse me, ludicrous. Incidentally, not all pasta is spaghetti, either.
5 hrs
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neutral |
jean-jacques alexandre
: Living in the French S.W I join my "outraged" voice to jlsjr's comment : Foie Gras is definitely NOT pâté !!!!!
6 hrs
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disagree |
Natalie Koshman
: What?!!!
8 hrs
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+3
26 mins
Pasta and sautéed cèpe caviare
I think it has to be understood as "Caviar de pâtes et cèpes sautés // au foie gras", as "cèpes sautés au foie gras" would seem difficult to achieve and a carnivore who didn't have ethical objections to foie gras might consider it a waste of foie gras. One can have aubergine caviare, so why not pasta and sautéed cèpe caviare? The size of the pasta used would be obvious from the context and needn't be detailed.
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Probably would use "pastini" or "acini di pepe".
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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-04-09 11:12:03 GMT)
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To sidetrack:it is my understanding that couscous is made from pre-cooked and roughly ground wheat, whereas pasta is made from dough.
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-04-09 10:09:34 GMT)
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Probably would use "pastini" or "acini di pepe".
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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-04-09 11:12:03 GMT)
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To sidetrack:it is my understanding that couscous is made from pre-cooked and roughly ground wheat, whereas pasta is made from dough.
Peer comment(s):
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Trinh Do
: This sounds agreeable and the combination of pasta, cepe and foie gras is delectable.
1 hr
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Thanks Trinh Do.
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John ANTHONY
: Sorry, but Wiki is often wrong... As a fully trained chef, I can confirm that, unlike what many people believe, couscous is not a grain... :-) But who cares anyway, it's a fantastic garnish!!!
1 hr
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Thanks John. Couscous isn't pasta, see http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_couscous_considered_a_pasta
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Linda Sansome (X)
: Yes, I think the heading of 'Façon risotto' implies a small type of pasta (as risotto is usually made with rice).
1 hr
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Thanks Linda, forgot or overlooked 'Façon risotto' - see my note below to Sarah.
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Sarah Wood
: 'facon risotto' is in the original question and is commonly used when cooking this type of pasta. That's why I wouldn't call this a caviar.
3 hrs
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Thanks Sarah. Yes, I'd somehow overlooked the 'facon risotto', which seems to be a heading and relate to the whole dish, and possibly some others listed with it.
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Reference comments
38 mins
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Note from asker:
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Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Constantinos Faridis (X)
: pasta = spaghetti
17 mins
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you are disagreeing with a PICTURE?????? and you are completely wrong anyway. Pasta isn't just spaghetti........
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Sarah Wood
38 mins
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Lingua 5B
: pasta can be spaghetti, but NOT in this context. Thanks for the photo, it's much helpful. Those pics just made me hungry
48 mins
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B D Finch
: Yummy, I just hope the lobster was killed humanely. Still better than stuffing tubes down geese's necks and giving them cirrhosis.
54 mins
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John ANTHONY
: It DOES look yummy... Pity I have become seriously allergic to crustaceans 40 years ago (too much over a short period in Britanny...). Now, lobsters are never killed "humanely", because, as summarised by my then 6 year old, "they have to be killed alive"!
1 hr
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1 day 5 hrs
Reference:
http://www.911caviar.com/caviar-recipes-pasta-caviar.html
pasta with caviar, perhaps
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Note added at 1 day5 hrs (2009-04-10 14:40:06 GMT)
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caviar with pasta filler: http://www.1-800-caviar.com/caviar-filler.html
or http://recipes.chef2chef.net/recipe-archive/32/174869.shtml
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Note added at 1 day5 hrs (2009-04-10 14:40:06 GMT)
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caviar with pasta filler: http://www.1-800-caviar.com/caviar-filler.html
or http://recipes.chef2chef.net/recipe-archive/32/174869.shtml
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