Nov 28, 2008 19:07
15 yrs ago
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English term
Egypt
NATIVE SPEAKER OF MEDICINE
Native in: Arabic 
, English
Works in: Arabic to English, English to Arabic, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
as of
Non-PRO
English to Arabic
Medical
Medical (general)
In ongoing trials, it is estimated that **as of ** September 2008 approximately 300 subjects have received xxx.
"As of" does not say if Sept 2008 is the future or the past. Now "e3tebaran men" means from Sept 2008 to the present (past) and "be7elool" means up to Sept 2008 (future). How can I manage to express it in a "tense-neutral" way?
This is the best I could muster:
تشير التقديرات أنه بحلول سبتمبر (أيلول) 2008 سيكون عدد مَن تلقوا أتاسيسبت ضمن تجارب قيد التنفيذ حوالي 300 شخصاً
"As of" does not say if Sept 2008 is the future or the past. Now "e3tebaran men" means from Sept 2008 to the present (past) and "be7elool" means up to Sept 2008 (future). How can I manage to express it in a "tense-neutral" way?
This is the best I could muster:
تشير التقديرات أنه بحلول سبتمبر (أيلول) 2008 سيكون عدد مَن تلقوا أتاسيسبت ضمن تجارب قيد التنفيذ حوالي 300 شخصاً
Proposed translations
(Arabic)
| 5 +3 | اعتبارا من |
Tamer Mekhimar
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| 4 +2 | إعتبارا من -----ـ |
Mohamed Salaheldin
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| 5 | بحلول |
Osama Yusuf (X)
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| 4 +1 | إبتداءً من |
Abby Gomaa
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| 5 | بداية من او بنهاية وقت معين او يوم معين |
asd_trans
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| 4 | في |
Mahmoud Rayyan
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| 4 -1 | حتي |
samargawad
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Proposed translations
+3
6 mins
Tamer Mekhimar
Egypt
Egypt
Native in Arabic
Works in field
Egypt
10+ years of experience
Native in: Arabic (Variants: Egyptian, Standard-Arabian (MSA)) 
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English
Related KudoZ points
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46
Selected
اعتبارا من
as of
From, at, or until a given time. For example, As of five o'clock the store will be closed for inventory, or As of last December our meetings have been open to the public, or As of now I'm not sure how I'll vote. This idiom was first used in business but came into more general use. [c. 1900]
From, at, or until a given time. For example, As of five o'clock the store will be closed for inventory, or As of last December our meetings have been open to the public, or As of now I'm not sure how I'll vote. This idiom was first used in business but came into more general use. [c. 1900]
Note from asker:
| I don't think this answer is correct. You miss the whole point! The source does not mean that 300 people took the medication SINCE Sept 08, but rather AT this time point, 300 subjects took or will have taken xxx. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you :-)"
3 mins
بحلول
well-known word
+1
5 mins
إبتداءً من
as of
prep. on; at; from, as from, term used to indicate a date or time at which something starts or ends (e.g.: "Darren terminated his job as of December 31st")
prep. on; at; from, as from, term used to indicate a date or time at which something starts or ends (e.g.: "Darren terminated his job as of December 31st")
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Mahmoud Rayyan
: مجرد تعليق بسيط على كلمة ابتداء فالهمزة هنا همزة وصل وليست همزة قطع
2 mins
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| agree |
nouhair ghoniem
34 mins
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Thank you
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6 mins
في
والله أعلم أرى أن تترجمها في
+2
7 mins
Mohamed Salaheldin
Egypt
Egypt
Native in Arabic
Egypt
Quality English-Arabic Translation/Proof
Native in: Arabic
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English
Related KudoZ points
:
24
إعتبارا من -----ـ
اعتبارا من أول سبتمبر
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Fuad Yahya
: اعتباراً من سـبتمبر، حسب النص. لا يُعرَف إن كان أول سـبتمبر هو المقصود
14 mins
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Thank you Fuad
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| agree |
Tamer Mekhimar
17 mins
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Thank you Tamer
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-1
24 mins
samargawad
Native in Arabic
Works in field
Native in: Arabic , Urdu
Works in: English to Urdu, English to Arabic, Arabic to Urdu, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
12
حتي
"As of" is a term used to indicate a date or time at which something starts or ends
and since this date cannot be a starting date I am suggesting "حتي/وحتي"
and since this date cannot be a starting date I am suggesting "حتي/وحتي"
2 hrs
بداية من او بنهاية وقت معين او يوم معين
ahmed terminated his job as of December 31st
Discussion
That means that at the time of writing, September was already in the past.
The expression اعتبارا من, like the expression "as of," can be used for the past as well as the present and the future, hence its particular usefulnee.