Nov 19, 2001 17:33
22 yrs ago
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German term

Schulnote "gut"

German to English Social Sciences Education / Pedagogy Education
This comes up in an employment-related contract, the entire sentence reads: "XXX wird Herrn Mustermann ein wohlwollendes Zeugnis erstellen, das in seiner Gesamtheit der Schulnote "gut" entspricht."

Now, here in NZ "very good" would be the equivalent of the German "good" in a school report, "gut" in Germany being only the second best grade, just short of excellent. This contract targets an American audience - what is the equivalent of the German school mark "gut" in the US?

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Non-ProZ.com Nov 19, 2001:
To avoid any misunderstandings This is neither a reference/testimonial nor does it say "like a school report". What the auhtor is trying to express is that Mr Mustermann was not quite brillant enough to merit an "excellent".

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A "B" average

In the US a B average is equivalent to the German gut. Sehr gut would be A or excellent.
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neutral patpending : sounds like the US system is similar to the UK one then...
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agree gangels (X) : A "B" average in grades
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agree Dr. Fred Thomson
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(corresponds to) "good" on a school report

not sure how "good" comes across in a country where ordinary burgers are "large" and ordinary petrol is "premium" - oh, that's the UK :-)

"B" is good in the UK and "C" is generally a pass...

but BEWARE OF ZEUGNISSE! If it says "like a school report" that could mean "behaved like a child", "got on well with the staff" could mean "got very friendly with the secretary", "very punctual" could mean "you could set your watch by this geezer when he left at 5pm" - they have a secret language used by German personnel people like that alleged to be used by doctors...
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very good

In German a "gut" is given at the end of a project or test or any kind of work and also at the end of the year on the school certificate. In German it corresponds to a "2" mark. The best mark corresponding to a 20 (in a 1-20 system) is 1. This means that this "gut" would correspond to a "16".
I would say to a "B" mark in England.

I hope my help is valuable!

Good Luck!

virginia
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On a scale of 1 through 6, "gut" is a 2.

German grading is usually:
sehr gut; gut; befriedigend; ausreichend; genuegend; ungenuegend.

Thus, you have to relate this scale with the scale used for your target audience (much as using "judgement" sometimes and "judgment" at others).

Anyhow, I hope this helps some.

Best regards!
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