Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Vorgesetzte und Mitarbeiter

English translation:

managers and employees reporting to them

Added to glossary by Niamh Mahony
Jun 21, 2005 06:11
18 yrs ago
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German term

Vorgesetzte und Mitarbeiter

German to English Bus/Financial Management Human Resources
What are your ideas on the best terms for Vorgesetzte und Mitarbeiter. SAP uses "superiors and employees", but aren't the Vorgesetzte employees too?
· Es ist ein Fördergespräch und unterstützt systematisch die kontinuierliche Kommunikation zwischen Mitarbeiter und Vorgesetztem.
· Die Einschätzung des Mitarbeiters anhand festgelegter Kriterien fällt dem Vorgesetzten oft leichter als ein ganz freies Gespräch zu führen und stellt sicher, dass die Mitarbeiter an denselben Maßstäben gemessen werden (mehr Gerechtigkeit).
Wir als das HR-Team wollen Sie als Vorgesetzte und Mitarbeiter bei dieser herausfordernden Aufgabe gern unterstützen.
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Change log

Jun 21, 2005 06:16: Niamh Mahony changed "Language pair" from "German" to "German to English"

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Jun 21, 2005:
Vorgesetzte und Mitarbeiter It's an article in a company newspaper.

Proposed translations

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managers and staff members

or managers and co-workers
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks, everyone. Basically, every answer was good and correct. I thought the answers from Ian and Brigitte were very good but I decided they were just too long for my text because I have to repeat the words a lot. That is why I'm giving the points to R. Raghunathan. His terms help me best for this specific context. However, I'll put Brigitte's answer in the glossary because it makes a better distinction for general use."
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managers and staff

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management and subordinates

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\"management and associates\" would be my suggestion then. Perhaps, Ian Harknett will have to change his comment :)

7,350 for \"management and associates\"

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At all levels of management and associates, we will repose the trust of our ...
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Peer comment(s):

disagree Ian M-H (X) : This appears to be a memo that will go to both Vorgesetzte and Mitarbeiter. Not even the most out of touch HR department would use the term "subordinate" here,
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It depends. I believe it to be a kind of advertising text, Ian Harknett!
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managers and employees reporting to them

I think that sounds more neutral than terms like "superiors" and "subordinates", less hierarchical.
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managerial and non-managerial staff

I wouldn't normally use this, but "managerial and non-managerial staff" might fit here.

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The word \"their\" might solve the problem as well: \"employees and their superiors\" (I don\'t see anything wrong with \'superiors\')
Peer comment(s):

agree Carolyn Brice : Agree with employees and their superiors
35 mins
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supervisors and employees

This is for example the term in customary use in the ExxonMobil world. Maybe it'll work here.

Otherwise I'd have no problems with "superiors and employees".

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staff and (their) line managers

also

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employees and line managers
Peer comment(s):

agree Ian M-H (X)
32 mins
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