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Im Auftrage

English translation: Leave it out

06:56 May 26, 2005
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
German term or phrase: Im Auftrage
What does "Im Auftrage" mean at the end of letter after "Mit freundlichen Grüßen" mean?

TIA!
Jianming Sun
Local time: 03:22
English translation:Leave it out
Explanation:
It means "per procurationem" ("pp" or "p.p." for short) - I wouldn't translate it if I were you, it is irrelevant.

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Note added at 5 mins (2005-05-26 07:02:05 GMT)
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Per procurationem is a Latin phrase meaning that you are signing the letter on somebody else\'s behalf; if they are not there to sign it themselves, etc. I have never seen it used apart from in translations from German, and \"i.A.\" is used all over the place in German, so I would simply leave it out.

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Note added at 7 mins (2005-05-26 07:03:55 GMT)
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See John\'s answer here: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/868268
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IanW (X)
Local time: 21:22
Grading comment
Thanks!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +5Leave it out
IanW (X)
4 +1Authorized signature.
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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
Leave it out


Explanation:
It means "per procurationem" ("pp" or "p.p." for short) - I wouldn't translate it if I were you, it is irrelevant.

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Note added at 5 mins (2005-05-26 07:02:05 GMT)
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Per procurationem is a Latin phrase meaning that you are signing the letter on somebody else\'s behalf; if they are not there to sign it themselves, etc. I have never seen it used apart from in translations from German, and \"i.A.\" is used all over the place in German, so I would simply leave it out.

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Note added at 7 mins (2005-05-26 07:03:55 GMT)
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See John\'s answer here: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/868268

IanW (X)
Local time: 21:22
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 54
Grading comment
Thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Terence Ajbro: Not used in English-speaking countries as far as I know
10 mins
agree  Edith Kelly
13 mins
agree  MMUlr: yes. - on the relevance in Germany. http://www.sekretaerinnenwelt.de/html/office-management_5.ht... see below "Beispiel"
1 hr
agree  Orla Ryan
2 hrs
agree  Lancashireman
3 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Authorized signature.


Explanation:
Suitably vague. Doesn't disclose whether it is by authorization from the employer (or etc.) and/or the signature is a substitute signature for an individual who has authorized the signer to sign for him. This can be extremely important in legal cases, e.g. when the authorizer becomes unavailable (due to death or etc.).

TechLawDC
United States
Local time: 15:22
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Raghunathan Rajagopalan: can we say authorised signatory?
20 hrs
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