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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

hotel agroturismo

English translation:

farmhouse hotel

Added to glossary by Adrian MM. (X)
Nov 9, 2013 21:12
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Spanish term

agroturismo

Spanish to English Other Tourism & Travel Accommodation
*** Esta oferta se complementa con hoteles, hostales, hoteles rurales y agroturismos, con una gran variedad de categorías y precios.***

I was surprised not to find this expression in the Glossaries/Term search. The best I can come up with is "agrotourism establishment(s)", but there must be a snappier way to get the idea across, whilst showing there is a difference between “agroturismos” and “hoteles rurales”.

By the way, the 'oferta' in question consists of mountain refuges for hikers in Mallorca.
Change log

Nov 12, 2013 06:42: Adrian MM. (X) Created KOG entry

Discussion

Rachel Fell Nov 12, 2013:
just a point without reading every bit of the page just now, can I just say that I prefer "country house" as 2 words? http://www.hambletonhall.com/
Charles Davis Nov 11, 2013:
@ Rick I'm very grateful for your consideration, but please don't worry about the points on my account. I would have posted the term "farmhouse hotel" if Tom hadn't already done so when I looked at the question, but since he had, I thought the thing to do was to support his answer. I enjoy researching terms like this and debating the answers. If it's been helpful, I'm very glad. I'd suggest you choose the answer you find most convincing and helpful, and just leave it at that.
Rick Larg (asker) Nov 11, 2013:
@Charles Davis How can I get the points to you? Though I am grateful for Tom Thumb's suggestions, I confess to thinking that your reply was better researched and, in general, more complete. I am loath to close the question without awarding the points, but it is an option.
Charles Davis Nov 10, 2013:
Why not, if it's an accurate translation (as I believe this is)? Personally I wouldn't be very happy calling them "agroturismos" in English (pace The Guardian), and what else are we to call them (bearing in mind they need to be distinguished from "casas rurales")? I don't think the word "agritourist" or "agritourism" should be used at all here, because it's misleading; these places in Majorca do not offer what we normally understand by agritourism in English.
AllegroTrans Nov 10, 2013:
All the more reason for not using a UK term
Charles Davis Nov 10, 2013:
farmhouse HOTEL There are various kinds of farmhouse accommodation, but things called farmhouse hotels in the UK, according to my research, are not B&Bs, or working farms with rooms, or self-catering apartments, but hotels, often 4 and 5 star. In principle, it would be unusual for something called a "hotel" to be what we normally call a B&B. I've stayed in a lot of B&Bs in the past and I don't recall any of them being called "hotel".
franglish Nov 10, 2013:
farmhouse accomodation this seems to include (a limited number of) rooms and breakfast on working farms, all the way to splendid converted farmhouses offering a limited number of self-catering appartments or bungalows; suites or rooms incl. catering. All in a rural setting.
http://www.rusticblue.com/holiday_villas_in_spain/za37(5).ph...
http://www.homeaway.co.uk › World › Europe‎
this last one offers a bit of everything
Helena Chavarria Nov 10, 2013:
I found 'farmhouse hotels' and it's commonly used. However, because most of them in the UK seem to be B&B, I decided against posting it as an answer.
Charles Davis Nov 10, 2013:
Good point, Neil They don't have to be "high-end", though in Majorca they do seem to be typically very comfortable and even luxurious, as Rick says; see the Guardian articles cited, or this page, where some at least seem to have swimming pools:
http://www.agroturismoenmallorca.com/agro.php

On the other hand, in Majorca they don't seem to be places where you get your hands dirty on the farm; they're simply holiday accommodation on a farm or former farm. That's the thing: they all seem to be farmhouses, which is not true of "casas rurales", which are country houses as opposed to farmhouses.

If you search for "farmhouse hotel" in English, you tend to find the same sort of thing, so I think this term, without qualification, is the right one here.
Neil Ashby Nov 10, 2013:
"gran variedad de categories y precios" Means low-end as well as high-end doesn't it?
Here's one to consider which involves the 'working holiday' side of things (such as grape-picking) - the bothy is very low-end - no running water or electricity, but definitely "agroturismo" because we spent the week planting trees. (http://www.treesforlife.org.uk/)
Charles Davis Nov 10, 2013:
Farmhouse hotels I think this is the term you want. These are quite definitely hotels; this is abundantly clear if you search for "agroturismos"+"Mallorca". They are typically, if not always, converted "fincas", i.e. farms. Here is one in that calls itself "Farmhouse hotel and spa" in the English website:
http://www.songener.com/es/agroturismo-mallorca/
http://www.welcomebeyond.com/property/farmhouse-hotel- -spa/...

These Observer and Guardian reports on Mallorca actually call them "agroturismos":
http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2008/may/11/balearicisland...
http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2011/jul/06/mallorca-tramu...

In other words, although "agroturismo" as a phenomenon can be called "agritourism", an "agroturismo" in Mallorca is a type of accommodation, and as far as I know this is never called an agritourism in English.
Helena Chavarria Nov 9, 2013:
Well, there seem to be a number of agritainment hotels around the world. http://english.visitbeijing.com.cn/lodging/agritainment/n214...
Darius Saczuk Nov 9, 2013:
I'm not sure if we are talking here about the type of hotel. Agroturismos refers here, IMHO, to general offerings, activities. Accomodation facilities could be used if we were talking only about the type of hotel.
claudia bagnardi Nov 9, 2013:
Hi Rick, I'm not sure about your comment but I guess that the sentence refers both to the places (hotels) and the activities they offer. Here in Argentina, this is quite usual.
Rick Larg (asker) Nov 9, 2013:
Thank you so far, but.... I am indeed grateful for the help offered, yet I am less interested in the type of TOURISM on offer than finding a term to express the type of HOTEL - often quite luxurious - that the sentence I posted refers to.

Proposed translations

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Spanish term (edited): hoteles rurales y agroturismos
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countryhouse and high-end farmhouse hotels

The question should have been reformulated as doesn't make clear that the agroturismo is acting adjectivally here

IATE's website;

ES

agroturismo

EN

agrotourism

farming holidays

agritourism

rural tourism

farmhouse holidays


Peer comment(s):

agree Charles Davis : "Farmhouse hotels" is the right term, I think, but I would reduce it to that and cut "countryhouse and high-end".
1 hr
Thanks. The high-end is predicated on the info. supplied by the asker and not 1960s package tours to Majorca.
agree philgoddard : With Charles.
6 hrs
Thanks.
agree Rachael West : I'd maybe prefer countryhouse hotels (without the rest), as it sounds more luxurious than farmhouse//Ah ok!, Then both… farmhouse and country hotels, skip repeating house, and high-end. Anything to avoid agro which in Eng doesn't (IMO) sound too good...
17 hrs
Thanks for your vote of confidence. But I was trying to translate the whole phrase/rurales > countryhouses which I, must admit, I can't *fathom syntactically: hoteles rurales y agroturismos vs. *agroturisticos//yes, we don't want any aggro 'bovver' boys.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for your help. In the end I'm going with 'farmhouse hotels', as used by many establishments at www.topfincas.com/es."
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agritourism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agritourism

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Seeing as Claudia and I have posted the same answer, here's another term :)

Agri-entertainment

Agri-entertainment has been referred to at "Agritainment" and people who entertain at these agriculture based functions have been referred to as "agritainers" since 2008 with the founding of the Texas Crossroads Cowboy Gathering.[1]
Agritainment includes not only farm and ranch tours, but also events such as cowboy music and poetry gatherings. The genres of cowboy music, cowboy poetry, and cowboy storytelling have their roots and material based upon the agrarian lifestyle of ranching. [2]
Agri-entertainment and agritourism refer to consumer‑focused forms of agriculture, in which farms supplement (or replace) their traditional income from the sale of crops to wholesale markets by offering a variety of "entertainment farming" options.
These agri-entertainment options include: pick-your-own operations, pumpkin patches, corn mazes, farm stores, agricultural festivals, and educational activities.
There are three aspects to agri-tourism. The farms have:
something for visitors to see.
something for them to do.
something for them to buy.
Usually, the farms are themed, such as Halloween-related activities (pumpkin patches and corn mazes) or historic recreations (a working farm or mill from the 19th century). Things to see and do are often offered free, but farms still derive a substantial profit by selling refreshments and souvenirs to visitors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agritainment

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Agritainment & Agritourism Project Experience
Our agritainment and agritourism feasibility, design and consulting experience includes working with the follow farms:

http://www.whitehutchinson.com/leisure/agritainmentexp.shtml
Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : the list in the ST is simply of accommodations, not an adjective
11 hrs
Thank you for your opinion.
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agrotourism/ agro-tourism

An option. To me, 'agro' sounds better... cuestión de oído y de gusto, nomás. So, I'm throwing this one into the mix. It's quite common, e.g. agrogeology, agroscience, agrochemical, agroecology, agrofuel, agrominerals. I know there are certainly many counter examples, too, 'agribusiness' likely the best-known.

"2009 Senate Bill 600: Agrotourism Immunity Act. Introduced by Sen. Michael W. Brubaker (R) on March 12, 2009, to establish the Agrotourism Immunity Act..." pennsylvaniavotes.org/2009-SB-600‎

"constituted some 9.2 percent of total global investments. Agrotourism and rural tourism in general is the main driver of economic growth/employment generation ..." www.cals.vt.edu/international/documents/PerrotisAgrotourism...

Apr 12, 1996 - "But that may change as the state begins to promote what it calls agro-tourism. From Deerfield Valley, Vermont, Tatiana Schreiber has our report ..." www.loe.org/shows/segments.html?programID=96-P13-00015...6
Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : the list in the ST is simply of accommodations. not an adjective
7 hrs
agree Wendy Streitparth : If the author used the right term, then this is the translation.
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agritourism/agritourist accommodation(s)

This clearly needs to be a noun, hence accommodations

Dolomites agritourism accommodation in Italy. Travel like a local
Dolomites agritourism accommodation in Italy. Rural farmstays accommodation in Italian Dolomites, from €35 - €40 per person per night incl breakfast. Travel like ...
www.responsibletravel.com/accommodation/8308/dolomites... - Cached
More results from responsibletravel.com »

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Refining agritourism accommodation - Lake Country Calendar
Council is reconsidering the format under which agritourism accommodation should be permitted on agricultural properties within the District. An open house scheduled ...
www.lakecountrycalendar.com/news/130792818.html - Cached

Agritourism accommodation Bologna, comfortable en suite bedrooms
Agritourism accommodation Bologna in a family-friendly environment. The farmhouse has two comfortable en suite bedrooms, complete with air conditioning, that afford ...
www.lacolombarola.it/eng/agritourism_accommodation... - Cached

Agritourism Accommodation: Experience the rural side of life
With an agritourism accommodation you can get your toes in the mud, your fingers in the dirt or just enjoy a cozy stay in the countryside.
www.culinary-travel-ideas.com/agritourism-accommodation.htm... - Cached
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agritourism


IMHO, the term refers to an activity rather than a place.

As defined by Wikipedia:
Agritourism, as it is defined most broadly, involves any agriculturally based operation or activity that brings visitors to a farm or ranch.

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You may also check these links for help.

Agritourism describes the act of visiting a working farm or any agricultural, horticultural or agribusiness operation to enjoy, be educated or be involved in ...
HowStuffWorks "Introduction to How Agritourism Works"

adventure.howstuffworks.com/agritourism.htm‎
by Robert Lamb - in 152 Google+ circles
Agritourism helps small farmers keep business alive by supplementing traditional farm work with tourism. Learn about agritourism and agritourists.
Agritourism - Merriam-Webster Online
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agritourism
ag·ri·tour·ism. noun \ˌa-gri-ˈtu̇r-ˌi-zəm\. Definition of AGRITOURISM. : the practice of touring agricultural areas to see farms and often to participate in farm ...
What is Agritourism? Jane Eckert, of Eckert AgriMarketing Explains ...
www.eckertagrimarketing.com/eckert-agritourism-what-is-agri...
Agritourism is the family fun that comes when agriculture and tourism intersect, according to Jane Eckert, CEO of Eckert AgriMarketing.

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Well, well.
So the bottom line seems to be that one thing is "agroturismo", and another "agroturismos" in the context supplied. I guess this is also a localization matter: In Argentina, agroturismo is the rural establishment + rural activities, yet in Europe (don't know in US) it means something different. So I agree with my "disagreers" (so to say). I came by this context:

Ten years ago Ibiza only had a couple of agroturismos but today there are more than 20, and it has become something of a buzzword on the island. At first the word, which originated in Italy, referred to working farms that let a few rooms, often in rustic outbuildings, to supplement their incomes. Now, thanks to the popularity of the idea, the definition is far more flexible - they are usually more stylish than rustic, and in many the farming now plays second fiddle. However, all guarantee traditional buildings set in fields or woodland, with fresh local food and peace and quiet by the bucketload.

Peer comment(s):

agree Helena Chavarria : Sorry, your answer hadn't appeared when I posted
1 min
Never mind, Helena. We are here to help. Thanks!
agree Catarina Lopes
3 mins
Thx Ana Catarina!
agree Eren Kutlu Carnì
47 mins
Thanks Eren.
agree Phoenix III
4 hrs
Thanks Phoenix III.
neutral philgoddard : This doesn't fit the context. Agritourism establishments would be OK.
8 hrs
neutral Neil Ashby : I'm with Phil, the source uses a pluralised, concrete noun. "Agritourism" is an uncountable, abstract noun. I don't think it's what is needed.
11 hrs
neutral AllegroTrans : the list in the ST is simply of accommodations, not an adjective
12 hrs
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rural tourism

A little late in the day, but is this not what is being referred to?
Wikipedia defines it as follows:

Rural tourism focuses on actively participating in a rural lifestyle. It can be a variant of ecotourism. Many rural villages can facilitate tourism because many villagers are hospitable and eager to welcome (and sometime even host) visitors. Agriculture is becoming highly mechanized and therefore, requires less manual labor. This trend is causing economic pressure on some villages, which in turn causes young people to move to urban areas. There is however, a segment of the urban population that is interested in visiting the rural areas and understanding their lifestyle. This segment in the tourism industry has been rapidly growing in the past decade, leading to rural tourism becoming not just a good business prospect, but a genuine vacation trend.

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"Rural tourism establishments" in the context
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Reference comments

16 hrs
Reference:

This paper defines the difference between agrI and agrO tourism.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree AllegroTrans : Blow me down, what an interesting article!
39 mins
Thanks, Allegro T. Wasn't sure if that was sarcasm!
agree Charles Davis : It certainly is! Very enlightening indeed: many thanks for the reference.
1 day 9 hrs
Thanks, Charles. That reassured me (see comment to AT)
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