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English term or phrase:
grinding
Spanish translation:
trituración
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Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
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grinding
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I am trying to find the correct word to describe the action of grinding in the following context in an academic publication titled "IDEOLOGY, CLINICAL STRUCTURES AND THE ETHICAL CHALLENGE TO THE ANALYST":
"Maybe we are unable to fully grasp the ideological element that guides us as psychoanalysts; such understanding is as incomplete as what we read in Gödel’s theorems: “the consistency of the axioms cannot be proven within the system.....Or as Lacan phrases it, “the analyst is fully aware that he cannot know what he is doing in psychoanalysis. Part of his action remains hidden even to him. Miller sets the horizon of the relationship with Lacanian theory “as a ***grinding*** of our Lacanian koinè ; an effort to fight against the banalization of what Lacan conquered at each moment, I mean against the very banality of his thought."
I feel that the author is trying to express a figurative concept that is continuous, abrasive and difficult....
I think that "molienda" or ""molido" just doesn't cut it here.
Any ideas are much appreciated!
"Maybe we are unable to fully grasp the ideological element that guides us as psychoanalysts; such understanding is as incomplete as what we read in Gödel’s theorems: “the consistency of the axioms cannot be proven within the system.....Or as Lacan phrases it, “the analyst is fully aware that he cannot know what he is doing in psychoanalysis. Part of his action remains hidden even to him. Miller sets the horizon of the relationship with Lacanian theory “as a ***grinding*** of our Lacanian koinè ; an effort to fight against the banalization of what Lacan conquered at each moment, I mean against the very banality of his thought."
I feel that the author is trying to express a figurative concept that is continuous, abrasive and difficult....
I think that "molienda" or ""molido" just doesn't cut it here.
Any ideas are much appreciated!
Proposed translations
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| 2 | trituración |
Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
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| 5 | Desmenuzamiento |
Verónica Lassa
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| 3 | esmerilado |
Susana Galilea
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| 3 | majado |
Chema Nieto Castañón
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| 3 | afilado |
Elisa Fernández Vic
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| 2 | machaque |
JohnMcDove
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Mar 3, 2018 09:40: Beatriz Ramírez de Haro Created KOG entry
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trituración
Creo que puede encajar en la imagen de "grinding".
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Comment: "Thank you everyone for your answers. In the end Tituracion was the correct term, which I confirmed with the client. This was a hard one for me, so I appreciate all of your suggestions. Thanks! Kate"
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esmerilado
Ojalá te sirva. Tuve que buscar el significado de "koinè", feliz de haber aprendido una nueva palabra :)
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majado
I am not completely sure how to read the metaphorical sense of grinding here. The fact, the common ground is the commonality of Lacan words and work throughout modern psychoanalysis; "our Lacanian koiné". The grinding of it could be read either positively, as the abbrasive and difficult work of searching the deeper meaning and implications of Lacan work. Or negatively, as the abbrasive and progressive breakdown of it all.
In Spanish, pulido or desgaste, respectively, could work.
As described though, as an effort to fight against its banalization, I guess the first option is most probably accurate. And yet pulido does not sound abbrasive or hard. Desbastar, or maybe majar would sound a bit more precise here.
Miller establece el horizonte de la relación con la teoría de Lacan como un majado de nuestro koiné lacaniano.
Majar; golpear en la era el trigo (...) para separar el grano de la paja.
In Spanish, pulido or desgaste, respectively, could work.
As described though, as an effort to fight against its banalization, I guess the first option is most probably accurate. And yet pulido does not sound abbrasive or hard. Desbastar, or maybe majar would sound a bit more precise here.
Miller establece el horizonte de la relación con la teoría de Lacan como un majado de nuestro koiné lacaniano.
Majar; golpear en la era el trigo (...) para separar el grano de la paja.
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afilado
"Grinding" en inglés también puede significar "afilado" ("the grinding of knives makes them sharper"). Es un matiz diferente al que sugieres, pero creo que tiene sentido en este contexto: los psicoanalistas hacen un esfuerzo continuo por mantener el pensamiento de Lacan afilado y libre de banalidades.
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Desmenuzamiento
Creo que se refiere a ese acto de desmenuzar la lengua común lacaniana haciendo lo que el propio Lacan hace (y que explica Miller en su seminario inédito Du symptome au fantasme, et retour) y que es arribar a la pregunta partiendo de la respuesta. Creo que Miller entiende que banalizar a Lacan es no pulverizar sus palabras para seguir pensando.
Sigo pensando, pero creo que por ahí puede ir la cosa.
Ojalá te ayude.
Saludos
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Note added at 6 days (2018-02-26 16:44:12 GMT)
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También podría ser algo como "hacer el proceso de molienda" "pasar por la molienda", o algo por el estilo, que además da la idea de hacer polvo sin la connotación negativa de destruir. No sé...
Sigo pensando, pero creo que por ahí puede ir la cosa.
Ojalá te ayude.
Saludos
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Note added at 6 days (2018-02-26 16:44:12 GMT)
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También podría ser algo como "hacer el proceso de molienda" "pasar por la molienda", o algo por el estilo, que además da la idea de hacer polvo sin la connotación negativa de destruir. No sé...
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