Aug 21, 2015 07:03
8 yrs ago
English term
placed into a state in which
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English
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Computers: Systems, Networks
When the data is not retained in the memory, the device acquires the data and stores it into the memory so that the data is placed into a state in which it is retained in the memory.
The original context is in Japanese, and I should translate it to English without changing the meaning of it.
Does "placed into a state in which" still make sense?
I wonder if there is any better expression in more normal English.
(I know "so that data is retained..." is simpler and easier to understand)
Thank you.
The original context is in Japanese, and I should translate it to English without changing the meaning of it.
Does "placed into a state in which" still make sense?
I wonder if there is any better expression in more normal English.
(I know "so that data is retained..." is simpler and easier to understand)
Thank you.
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Adrian Liszewski
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status of the data is: "stored in the memory"
This is how I see it. obviously the sentence needs some simplification, but the clue of what You're probably looking for is that the status of the data changes. Imagine a new file in word processor that You put some text in. It hasn't been saved yet. It''s status is "not saved". After You save this file as a new file, one can say that the status of your file is "saved to a disk". Same here, probably some extra parameter of this data set may have different values depending on whether the data was or was not saved/retained in this particular type of memory.
Please note that this is my most intelligent guess, what I have written above does not stem directly from the text bur rather from my experience in similar area and with similar types of uncertainty.
Please note that this is my most intelligent guess, what I have written above does not stem directly from the text bur rather from my experience in similar area and with similar types of uncertainty.
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Comment: "Thank you"
Discussion
I didn't intend to stick to the word "state." I just didn't know an alternative word to convey the meaning.
I changed "stored" to "held" because they were different words in the original context . It can be anything that has a similar meaning to "retained" or "held." I appreciated your suggestion.
Also, "in a state that..." is the wrong construction — one would expect it to continue "In a state that ... it is suitable for further processing" etc.
If I were trying to crowbar 'state' into the sentence (which I wouldn't anyway!), I would write soemthing like "so it is in a state of being held in memory" — which although horribly clumsy and unidiomatic would at least be grammatically correct.
Note that your modification to my suggestion "...has not already been held in memory..." changes the meaning, by using a different verb; and I suspect the change is NOT conveying the meaning you think it is! "has not been held" tends rather to suggest "...at some time ever in the past"; but I'm assuming you really mean "If at the current time the date is not currently held in memory" or "has not already been stored in memory" — these subtle syntactical differences are quite important.
I know the sentence is redundant and the original sentence too...
I should probably say "If the data has not already been held in memory, the device acquires the data and stores it in memory so that the data is in a state that it is held in the memory."
Taking it in isolation, what is wrong with it, to me, is that we wouldn't talke about 'placing date into a state' — we might 'place data into a specified memory location', but talking about 'state' with 'data' is confusing in the first place, as well as being very largely redundant.
But there is an overall problem with your whole sentence; it may be the sequence of tenses that is wrong, but it is far from clear to me. Do you mean "If the data has not already been stored in memory, the device acquires the data and stores it in memory"? If so, then you can simply carry on with "so the data will be retained if the power is turned off" (for example).
If you can help us to try and understand what you're really trying to say, we can probably help you to arrive at a more idiomatic sounding result in EN.