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Feb 9, 2011 04:39
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German term
Hydrope
German to English
Medical
Medical (general)
Oncology/hepatology
Der Satz: "Aktuell ergeben klinische Zeichen einer Leberzirrhose ohne Hinweis auf eine erneute hydrope oder enzephalopathische Dekompensation." Numquam vidi nomen HYDROPEN medicum -- quis vestrum mihi succurreret?
HYDROPS sehe ich ja in meinen deut.-engl. medizinischen Woerterbuechern und anderen Quellen. Kein Problem.
Aber "hydrope" (im Text a_b_s_i_c_h_t_l_i_c_h kleingeschreiben, mit E anstatt S am Ende--man denke an einer "Eta"). Sogar im Altgriechischen (meiner Doktorsprache) gab es keine "HYDROPE" -- sonderbares Wort! Weder per Google noch Wikipedia finde ich was.
(Und bitte nichts darueber, was der in Deutschland praktizierende Arzt haette schreiben sollen!!!! Deutsch unterrichte ich nicht...ich uebersetze nur. Der Text ist schon einige Jahre alt, er wohnt/wohnte in Deutschland und ich in Amerika. Ich, kleiner, koennte keinem grossen Arzt, ob in D-land oder in A-ka, etwas darueber beibringen, wie man Deutsch schreiben sollte!)
HYDROPS sehe ich ja in meinen deut.-engl. medizinischen Woerterbuechern und anderen Quellen. Kein Problem.
Aber "hydrope" (im Text a_b_s_i_c_h_t_l_i_c_h kleingeschreiben, mit E anstatt S am Ende--man denke an einer "Eta"). Sogar im Altgriechischen (meiner Doktorsprache) gab es keine "HYDROPE" -- sonderbares Wort! Weder per Google noch Wikipedia finde ich was.
(Und bitte nichts darueber, was der in Deutschland praktizierende Arzt haette schreiben sollen!!!! Deutsch unterrichte ich nicht...ich uebersetze nur. Der Text ist schon einige Jahre alt, er wohnt/wohnte in Deutschland und ich in Amerika. Ich, kleiner, koennte keinem grossen Arzt, ob in D-land oder in A-ka, etwas darueber beibringen, wie man Deutsch schreiben sollte!)
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | concentration of humor or body fluid |
Ellen Kraus
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| 3 +1 | fluid [retention]-related//or fluid overload |
Lirka
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| 4 | fluid accumulation |
SJLD
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| 4 | hydropsy |
Constantinos Faridis (X)
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References
| Hydrope |
Ellen Kraus
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Proposed translations
3 hrs
Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
Native in German
Specializes in field
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German 
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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341
concentration of humor or body fluid
at least in line with my reference entry
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5 hrs
fluid [retention]-related//or fluid overload
as an attempt to fit it into the sentence as adjective...
but SJLD's suggestion works well, too...
you can use fluid accumulation or fluid overload
but SJLD's suggestion works well, too...
you can use fluid accumulation or fluid overload
Peer comment(s):
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SJLD
: fluid retention but not overload - it's not a problem of hypervolaemia
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but isn't fluid overload the result of fluid retention?
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2 hrs
German term (edited):
hydrope Dekompensation
fluid accumulation
We don't use "hydropsy" in modern medicine.
This means cirrhosis without fluid accumulation (of peritoneal fluid or ascites) or encephalopathy.
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See also "hydropic degeneration" of hepatocytes = swelling of the cell due to the accumulation of water
Cell Response to Injury, Necrosis and Apoptosis - [ Traduire cette page ]25 Jan 2009 ... Changes associated with accumulation of water in the cell: cloudy swelling, vacuolar degeneration, hydropic degeneration. 2. ...
www.docstoc.com/.../Cell-Response-to-Injury-Necrosis-and-Ap... - En cacheUltrastructural pathology: an introduction to interpretation - Résultats Google Recherche de Livres
Norman F. Cheville, Norman F. Cheville - 1994 - Medical - 946 pages
Hydropic degeneration: massive accumulation of water in the cytoplasm. Proteolysis of cytoplasmic matrix, ribo- somes, and filaments is responsible for foci ...
books.google.fr/books?isbn=0813823986...
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See "hydropisch" in German.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2011-02-09 11:53:33 GMT)
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We don't use "humor" in modern medicine either, unless we're being funny ;-)
This means cirrhosis without fluid accumulation (of peritoneal fluid or ascites) or encephalopathy.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2011-02-09 07:24:08 GMT)
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See also "hydropic degeneration" of hepatocytes = swelling of the cell due to the accumulation of water
Cell Response to Injury, Necrosis and Apoptosis - [ Traduire cette page ]25 Jan 2009 ... Changes associated with accumulation of water in the cell: cloudy swelling, vacuolar degeneration, hydropic degeneration. 2. ...
www.docstoc.com/.../Cell-Response-to-Injury-Necrosis-and-Ap... - En cacheUltrastructural pathology: an introduction to interpretation - Résultats Google Recherche de Livres
Norman F. Cheville, Norman F. Cheville - 1994 - Medical - 946 pages
Hydropic degeneration: massive accumulation of water in the cytoplasm. Proteolysis of cytoplasmic matrix, ribo- somes, and filaments is responsible for foci ...
books.google.fr/books?isbn=0813823986...
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Note added at 2 hrs (2011-02-09 07:38:53 GMT)
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See "hydropisch" in German.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2011-02-09 11:53:33 GMT)
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We don't use "humor" in modern medicine either, unless we're being funny ;-)
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Lirka
: yes, or fluid overload
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I wouldn't use fluid overload - that is not the cause of ascites in cirrhosis
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Constantinos Faridis (X)
: this is an explanation, not a medical term translation
1 day 35 mins
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this is the term an English speaking doctor - such as myself - would use. Please read the last sentence in my profile.
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1 hr
German term (edited):
Hydrops
hydropsy
Edema (American English) or oedema (British English; both words from the Greek οἴδημα, oídēma "swelling"), formerly known as dropsy or hydropsy, is an abnormal accumulation of fluid beneath the skin or in one or more cavities of the body. Generally, the amount of interstitial fluid is determined by the balance of fluid homeostasis, and increased secretion of fluid into the interstitium or impaired removal of this fluid may cause edema.
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dropsy
Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, An Intermediate Greek-English ...
ὕδρωψ 1 2 ὕδωρ. I. dropsy. II. a dropsical person. 1 u(/drwfailing on lembuf []. 2 y, wpos,. Liddell and Scott. An Intermediate Greek-English Lexicon. ...
www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc.
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internationally, all medical terms are derived from greek or latin language, as in this case.
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Note added at 1 ώρα (2011-02-09 06:25:22 GMT)
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dropsy
Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, An Intermediate Greek-English ...
ὕδρωψ 1 2 ὕδωρ. I. dropsy. II. a dropsical person. 1 u(/drwfailing on lembuf []. 2 y, wpos,. Liddell and Scott. An Intermediate Greek-English Lexicon. ...
www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc.
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Note added at 1 ημέρα3 ώρες (2011-02-10 07:57:41 GMT)
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internationally, all medical terms are derived from greek or latin language, as in this case.
Reference comments
3 hrs
Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
Native in German
Specializes in field
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
341
Reference:
Hydrope
Wassersucht – (griechisch hydropisis) ist eine umgangssprachliche Bezeichnung für eine abnorme Ansammlung von Körperflüssigkeit. Heute bezeichnet man sie auch ...
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassersucht - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassersucht - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten
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