This question was closed without grading. Reason: Answer found elsewhere
Apr 3, 2008 01:02
16 yrs ago
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English term

rights in and to XXX

English Law/Patents Law: Contract(s)
Full Sentence: All title and property rights in and to [product name] belong to [company name].

Could anyone tell me why people tend to write "in and to" instead of simply "rights in XXX" or "rights to XXX"? Is there any important difference in meaning between "in" and "to"?

Thanks.

Discussion

sigmalanguage (asker) Apr 4, 2008:
Thanks. This is just what I wanted know. Perhaps I should learn to make better use of Kudoz database.
d_vachliot (X) Apr 3, 2008:
Has been asked before: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/2227603

Responses

+1
3 hrs

Doesn't make much sense with

I can understand "to" in that sentence, but not really "in." Perhaps someone with experience in contract law could let us know if there's something here not obvious to laypeople.

An example, with me plugging in a product name and a company name, would be "All property rights to the Big Mac belong to McDonalds." That makes sense. Adding "in" to the sentence does not.

Even using "for" or "of" make better sense to me than "in," if not for the sentence above than with other potential products at least.

Could it be a typo? Something written by a non-native speaker?

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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-04-03 04:46:58 GMT)
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My full subject line, which I guess got cut off, was:

Doesn't make much sense with "in"
Note from asker:
I have just closed this question because http://www.proz.com/kudoz/2227603 answers my question. I would like to thank you all the same for your input.
Peer comment(s):

agree Gary D : Rights in means the right in any legal matters or in relation to the property, the rights to, means they have the rights to all access to the property.
3 hrs
agree Vicky Nash : with Gary too
3 hrs
neutral David Moore (X) : I think you'll find the site quoted under the ATA enlightening...
3 hrs
disagree cmwilliams (X) : makes sense to me - http://www.proz.com/kudoz/2227603
3 hrs
neutral Ken Cox : with cmwilliams -- this is legal wording that reflects idiomatic English usage
5 hrs
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